VANITY: The "Truth" about JimRob and Free Republic according to BADJOE

LibertyPost.org | 10/10/03 | BADJOE (Slightly revised by JimRob)

[Jim Robinson]

Sure. Just like his research and writings into Karl Rove and George W. Bush running FR. Right. Sorry, OKCSubmariner's obviously a couple tubes short of a full spread.

[Sir_Ed]

I always have at least 30 tabs (windows) open in Safari, it's a lot more convenient.

Ed

[PatrickHenry]

His drop through the air was the root of the square ...

Pythagoras, your theorem staggers us.

[Sir_Ed]

"Sure. Just like his research and writings into Karl Rove and George W. Bush running FR. Right. Sorry, OKCSubmariner's obviously a couple tubes short of a full spread."

Sorry, I hadn't seen those threads. I just read his TWA stuff.

Ed

[gore3000]

So trying to pin this on the recent bannings is disingenuous.

I don't have to pin this on anything except the vile slanderers that accuse other people falsely. I don't have to pin anything on these vile slanderers since they themselves have shown IN THEIR VERY OWN WORDS that they are the stalkers.

So as I have said, in spite of your claim to high morals you are defending the criminals and attacking the messenger in perfect Clintonian fashion with the 'old news', 'harshness', and semantic tactics of those degenerates. In other words, you are trying to excuse the criminals and assassinating the character of the messenger. You have therefore willingly made yourself a part of the immoral and despicable tactics of the evos you are so dishonestly defending.

[gore3000]

Yes, it was cryptic.

Of course it had to be because you were trying to defend liars telling a humongous lie - accussing people of stalking when it is they who are the stalkers - by their own admission. Your post is therefore completely dishonest and an attempt at covering up the immoral acts of your friends.

[gore3000]

All I am doing is trying to point out to him that it does not lend itself well to his argument.

Then you should be saying - your charges are absolutely correct, but you should tone it down. You have not said that at all and have implied numerous times that the charges against the evo stalkers are not correct. Further, as to my use of words, it is the evos who specifically used the charge of stalking, they used the word, plus disclosed a bunch of private e-mails and told a bunch of lies to get ALS banned. This is totally despicable conduct, totally irrelevant to forum discussions which no decent person should condone. You are condoning it by not stating that my charges are correct in any of the numerous posts we have had on this.

[Reagan Renaissance]

Columbus took a chance and broke new ground. But Columbus was not an adventurer or just a sailor willing to gamble. Columbus was the premier cartographer of his time. Ship Captains were willing to trade their own private self-discovered valuable navigation information with Columbus in exchange for Columbus's navigation charts which were the most current and best of their time. I don't know whether Columbus believed the world to be a globe or not, but it is fairly simple and common to pick up a large sheet by the edges and hold them together for moving to another location. How difficult is it to grasp the concept that two locations at the opposite edges of a chart can actually be adjoining when you hold the two edges of the chart together?

Now it is time for FreeRepublic and Jim Robinson to "take a chance" and examine the potential of joining the edges to chart a new course for the United States. The United States and freedom are in serious decline. Many Americans might have difficulty in seeing that the end of the United States is actually in sight. Some will not believe that we have only three elections (2004, 2008 and 2012) in which to solve America's two major problems. Nations do not generally survive the complete collapse of their currencies or their credit. We in the United States face both and it is unlikely that we will remain solvent and credit worthy until 2020. If we don't fix our financial problems before 2016, I don't believe there will be a Presidential election in 2016 because the United States will become the "untied states" through a rapid series of secessions by individual and clusters of states.

There is an alternative solution. Instead of changing nations, we change the attitudes of politicians and political parties, particularly the platform and leadership of the Republican Party.

Americans For A Free Republic have some ideas that should appeal to the members of this forum. Here are few excerpts from their mission statement linked above:

Gold Money and Equal Tax Rates!
Creating a Viable Challenge to the Demopublicans

The two levers of power that have allowed Gargantua to grow into such a hideous beast were given to it in 1913 with the enactment of the Federal Reserve and the progressive income tax. These two institutions destroyed the idea of "limited government" that the Founders had given us in 1787.

These two institutions were the death knell of a free and prosperous republic. With the ability to print money and confiscate our incomes, the Federal Government was thus able to grow exponentially over the past century -- well beyond the strictly constrained power that the Founding Fathers intended it to be.

Its power has been greatly exacerbated along the way by the merging of our two parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, into carbon copies of each other. These two supposedly separate institutions have become nothing but two divisions of the same party -- the Demopublican Party. They never oppose each other on fundamental goals, only on specific details on how to implement the same goal. And their common goal is to expand the power of the Federal Government via more and more taxation, spending, pork and privileges.

[gore3000]

The science threads are also frequently graced by the presence of a certain poster who is a master of many subjects including biology, chemistry, physics, and statistics, has overturned 150 years of scientific theory, and is surely awaiting the Nobel prize in several disciplines.

Your sarcasm is completely unfounded. My proof against atheistic evolution is well founded and well supported by scientific facts which I have detailed in several articles. The Evidence Disproving Evolution is overwhelming. There are numerous Amazing Creatures which could never have arisen if evolution were true. There is also tons of Nobel Prize design in DNA which shows evolution to have been impossible. All the above and more are ample reasons for reasonable people to have said Bye, Bye Darwin a long time ago.

In spite of the claim of many evos of being scientists, they could not refute the above when posted on FR so all you can do is try to make fun of the truth. Further, I lay no claim to any discoveries, I am only detailing what has been discovered and amply shown by those who are much more knowledgeable than either of us - that Darwinian evolution is totally false.

[Reagan Renaissance]

Americans For a Free Republic has a certain ring to the name. It should appeal to the leaders and the members of this forum. And its principles should be the guide posts of returning the Unites States (us) to our roots and our freedom.

[Stultis]

Your post is therefore completely dishonest

Be that as it may, I have nothing more to say on the subject. But on a related matter, gore3000, will you make the minimal agreement not to bring up the sore subject of banned posters, if others don't, and not to bring it up yourself? Granted that DittoJed2 was the instigator in this thread, but regardless of her response, what say you?

[Stultis]

Oh, and in the midst of whatever further denunciations you may cast from on high, please include a clear "yes" or "no".

[OWK]

Good to see you.

Hope all is well.

[gore3000]

But on a related matter, gore3000, will you make the minimal agreement not to bring up the sore subject of banned posters, if others don't, and not to bring it up yourself?

I made one agreement with the evos already and tried very hard for it to become truly effective by asking them to demonstrate their willingness to correct those amongst their own who had more than crossed the lines of honest discussion set in the agreement. They not only failed to do so, but instead attacked me for asking them to condemn the actions of their friends. So, no, I will make no agreements with people who dishonorably fail to follow them less than 24 hours after they made their promise. 'Once fooled, shame on you, twice fooled shame on me'. I will not be twice fooled.

[NewLand]

Thanks Jim! I'm glad to contribute to a great forum like this. You have built something that will last, and you should be proud. I know we are proud of your accomplishment, and no 'badjoe's' can take that away.

Long live Free Republic!

[Stultis]

So, you reserve the right to bring up matters that you know will be hurtful or will cause strife, even in the absence of any provocation. Obviously your attachment to bitterly held gripes is more important to you than comity in the forum. Duly noted.

[whattajoke]

I've been lurking this thread and skimming through it this morning... A few things jump out at me:

1) The incessant whining of DittoJed2 and, of course, LBB (That's Gore3000, aka "Little Boy Blue" for you non-CREVO thread readers. He always posts in blue... kinda like that annoying kid back in 7th grade with all the bodily function noises all the time, just to get attention. Sure, he got the attention, but he never made an intelligent sound.)

2) they both implore us to visit their little site. Here, I'll do it again: everyone go to DesignedUniverse.com. Currently, there are about 5 or 6 "members" there, at least 3 of which are recently banned (and quite angry) FReepers. The only catch is, to read their venom, one has to register. Fair enough... until you realize you have to give the site owner way too much personal information. Which, most times, would be fine as well.

3) HOWEVER, the site owner is non other than banned FReeper ALS. Possibly the scariest poster I've ever been witness too. Alamo Girl has accused him of "cyber stalking." I am fully aware of another female FReeper who has a similar (and even scarier) story about the man. I don't know many details, but I certainly believe both women, as I have never had reason not too. So, ALS has this little thing going over there at his site, with 2 other bannees (goodseedhomeschool and jessesherun) and a few of our more colorful creationists (gore3000 et al) and they want US to visit, give names, residencies, IP's, addresses, god knows what else, you sure as hell know he logs each and every IP that visits his site (and notice that gore's recently posted links all take you there) and lord knows what he does with the info he collects. And no, this isn't tin foil material, I am actually serious, despite my screenname.

4) Spurious accusations? Hollow accusations? perhaps... but I doubt it. Those of us who have been witness to the coordinated blitzkreig of the Des.Uni crowd know better. Bannees returning with false aliases, obvious flame-baiting with new screen names, abuse of the abuse button, pulled threads, endless nazi claims, on and on and on. For a short while, it kind of worked (Late July/early August) as we simply became tired of the crap and some of us took a break. One of "us" couldn't control himself and got banned. (Aric2000... which by the way, was justified). Thankfully, the mods caught on to the game and 3 of the worst were subsequently banned. (and one, jessesherun, got banned while posting in the religion forum, which I still find schaudenfreudian delight in).

5) Anyway, it must be said there are a few on the creationist side I take no umbrage with. Plenty, actually. Once in a while, some fall victim to the DesUni crowd which sucks. I'd just like to publicly thank whomever is/was responsible for the bannings of the previously mentioned FReepers and to say that that is a big part of the reason I've doubled my FR donation this quarter.

6) There are some rather brilliant folks over on the science threads. You ALL should visit those threads sometimes, as it's often a good diversion from day to day politics. The mysterious Ichneumon, king of the thorough and reasoned posts is always good for some learning. RadioAstronomer is a fountain of knowledge. VadeRetro, RightWingProfessor, PatrickHenry, Piltdown_Woman, Physicist... on and on. Always good stuff (whether I "get" it all the time or not.) Of course I've forgotten several other posters.

6) ok, that was a totally random post, sorry.

[PatrickHenry]

... that is a big part of the reason I've doubled my FR donation this quarter.

Okay, you've done it now. I've just contributed again, thus doubling my customary quarterly donation.

[DittoJed2]

Stultis,
As usual, you are a day late and a dollar short. It was NOT unprovoked whatsoever and related directly to questions being asked Sabertooth (which you would realize if you truly searched through the threads) as well as recent experience on this forum. This thread seems to be a thread in which these kind of things are being aired out, so if Sabertooth wouldn't answer, I would. In the mean time, ALS is FREQUENTLY maligned by this crowd and yes, as I said before, if they would leave him alone we wouldn't feel the need to defend him. Don't confuse this thread with topics on other threads. JimRob was airing out some things, Sabertooth was, other people were, I chimed in - and you are not the person to tell me I was wrong for doing so, so if I were you I'd mind my own business.

[RadioAstronomer]

defending the criminals --snip--yourself a part of the immoral and despicable tactics

That just ended our debate. Rant all you want, however, calling other freepers criminals is a direct attack.

Sigh! I really hoped you would understand what I was trying to get across. Debate is fine however; these incessant personal attacks have gotten really old.

If you go back and re-read everything I wrote, it never was about who did what to who. It was about your endless personal attacks on freepers who do not agree with you. (Myself included)