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Your post is therefore completely dishonest

Be that as it may, I have nothing more to say on the subject. But on a related matter, gore3000, will you make the minimal agreement not to bring up the sore subject of banned posters, if others don't, and not to bring it up yourself? Granted that DittoJed2 was the instigator in this thread, but regardless of her response, what say you?

Oh, and in the midst of whatever further denunciations you may cast from on high, please include a clear "yes" or "no".

But on a related matter, gore3000, will you make the minimal agreement not to bring up the sore subject of banned posters, if others don't, and not to bring it up yourself?

I made one agreement with the evos already and tried very hard for it to become truly effective by asking them to demonstrate their willingness to correct those amongst their own who had more than crossed the lines of honest discussion set in the agreement. They not only failed to do so, but instead attacked me for asking them to condemn the actions of their friends. So, no, I will make no agreements with people who dishonorably fail to follow them less than 24 hours after they made their promise. 'Once fooled, shame on you, twice fooled shame on me'. I will not be twice fooled.

I've been lurking this thread and skimming through it this morning... A few things jump out at me:

1) The incessant whining of DittoJed2 and, of course, LBB (That's Gore3000, aka "Little Boy Blue" for you non-CREVO thread readers. He always posts in blue... kinda like that annoying kid back in 7th grade with all the bodily function noises all the time, just to get attention. Sure, he got the attention, but he never made an intelligent sound.)

2) they both implore us to visit their little site. Here, I'll do it again: everyone go to DesignedUniverse.com. Currently, there are about 5 or 6 "members" there, at least 3 of which are recently banned (and quite angry) FReepers. The only catch is, to read their venom, one has to register. Fair enough... until you realize you have to give the site owner way too much personal information. Which, most times, would be fine as well.

3) HOWEVER, the site owner is non other than banned FReeper ALS. Possibly the scariest poster I've ever been witness too. Alamo Girl has accused him of "cyber stalking." I am fully aware of another female FReeper who has a similar (and even scarier) story about the man. I don't know many details, but I certainly believe both women, as I have never had reason not too. So, ALS has this little thing going over there at his site, with 2 other bannees (goodseedhomeschool and jessesherun) and a few of our more colorful creationists (gore3000 et al) and they want US to visit, give names, residencies, IP's, addresses, god knows what else, you sure as hell know he logs each and every IP that visits his site (and notice that gore's recently posted links all take you there) and lord knows what he does with the info he collects. And no, this isn't tin foil material, I am actually serious, despite my screenname.

4) Spurious accusations? Hollow accusations? perhaps... but I doubt it. Those of us who have been witness to the coordinated blitzkreig of the Des.Uni crowd know better. Bannees returning with false aliases, obvious flame-baiting with new screen names, abuse of the abuse button, pulled threads, endless nazi claims, on and on and on. For a short while, it kind of worked (Late July/early August) as we simply became tired of the crap and some of us took a break. One of "us" couldn't control himself and got banned. (Aric2000... which by the way, was justified). Thankfully, the mods caught on to the game and 3 of the worst were subsequently banned. (and one, jessesherun, got banned while posting in the religion forum, which I still find schaudenfreudian delight in).

5) Anyway, it must be said there are a few on the creationist side I take no umbrage with. Plenty, actually. Once in a while, some fall victim to the DesUni crowd which sucks. I'd just like to publicly thank whomever is/was responsible for the bannings of the previously mentioned FReepers and to say that that is a big part of the reason I've doubled my FR donation this quarter.

6) There are some rather brilliant folks over on the science threads. You ALL should visit those threads sometimes, as it's often a good diversion from day to day politics. The mysterious Ichneumon, king of the thorough and reasoned posts is always good for some learning. RadioAstronomer is a fountain of knowledge. VadeRetro, RightWingProfessor, PatrickHenry, Piltdown_Woman, Physicist... on and on. Always good stuff (whether I "get" it all the time or not.) Of course I've forgotten several other posters.

6) ok, that was a totally random post, sorry.