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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
"Don't get me wrong about the impeachment thing. As a private citizen I was and still am thrilled that
Clinton will forever be tainted by impeachment.

But it was a bad political move by the Republicans. It was seen as vindictive and partisan by most
Americans, "

Actually...and to be perfectly honest...a Republican relieving himself in a public bathroom is seen as "vindictive and partisan".

However, you're wrong about it being seen that way by "most Americans", that's how it's portrayed in an obviously liberal dominated media.

You probably aren't a conservative. We don't consider punishment for crimes from the point of view of how an uninvolved third party might perceive it as a valid viewpoint.
83 posted on 08/12/2003 11:15:30 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Maelstrom
Impeachment is not "punishment for crimes".
It is removal from office. High crimes and misdemeanors can lead to impeachment, but we all know there have been far worse crimes committed by Presidents than the particular one Clinton was impeached for.

I just think that it lowered the bar and set a bad precident that may come back to haunt Republicans one day.

But regardless, like I said, I personally was and am in favor of the impeachment. Unlike most people though, I try to seperate my personal feelings on matters from what is ultimately best. Perhaps if more people could do that, then we wouldn't even have to have this debate about Arnold.

Now I don't understand why you think I'm probably not a conservative.
I'm not even sure what it means to be one. Some people's idea of a "conservative" is my idea of a religious right-wing ideologue.

I almost always agree with Rush Limbaugh, if that gives you an idea. He doesn't preach about abortion for hours on end, and while he is pro-life, that isn't his core issue. Defeating Democrats is. Where I have differed from him that I can even recall is on his take the 9th Circuit Court ruling on the Pledge (but I seem to differ from EVERYONE willing to opine on that).

So where does that leave me?

Now I would submit to you that taking my pragmatic approach will get Conservatives much further over the next 10 to 20 years than the self-ordained "true conservatives" on this forum with their all-or-nothing approach.

So who is really the "true conservative"?
The one who makes some advancement, or the one who loses ground?
96 posted on 08/12/2003 11:40:25 AM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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