Why I Am Now Behind Arnold

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[over3Owithabrain]

Looking at the thread title, I thought this was a Morford piece...

[spokeshave]

Dond = Dong....sorry fingers knotted

[Quix]

I hope he'll be orders of magnatude better than that.

We shall see.

I don't like a lot about Arnold. I don't trust his liberal associations by a long shot.

But it's clear to me he's way ahead of the pack and I prefer to focus on the positive aspects of what seems exceedingly inevitable.

[george wythe]

San Francisco and Los Angeles are Democrat strongholds. But the state really is 50/50

Do you happen to have a source for that?

[Sir Valentino]

We will *NEVER* get a *REPUBLICAN* in California's *GOVERNOR'S MANSION* with your *ATTITUDE*!

[Maelstrom]

ROFLMAO

I hope you do live in California. You certainly do deserve what you've worked so hard to earn.

[sinkspur]

Sabertooth has a point - there is something afoul of your timeline, and the fact that you are putting up whole threads all of a sudden is a little off kilter for what we're used to out of newbies.

If he were trashing other FReepers (as many FReepers have been doing the last week or so), your concern might be valid.

So far, all the Doctor's done is post well-written, and thoughtful essays, agree with him or not.

I bash newbies some myself, and I really shouldn't, because a poster's sign-up date is irrelevant, unless he's trying to disrupt by posting garbage or flaming.

[pogo101]

I thought this was a Morford piece.

I don't think that Morford would be pitching, in that battery.

[Guyin4Os]

To repeat my self, Schwarzenegger is a RINO, but that is what it takes to win California

This is the mantra Californian Republicans have been telling themselves for the last two election cycles. But remember, Bill Simon, with a totally inept campaign, with politically incompetent advice, with ZERO camera presence, came within 5% of beating the incumbent. With a little backing, a Tom McClintock, or a Darryl Issa, or a Dick Mountjoy could easily have beaten Davis. The key is for the California GOP to put its money behind a candidate who is experienced and competent who can energize the base of the party, the family-oriented, hard-working people of the state.

[over3Owithabrain]

good point

[Mr. Mojo]

If McClintock had come out strong in his proposed policy statement against illegal immigration and gun control, I'd support him enthusiastically no matter how far back in the polls he is. But alas, he either doesn't have the guts to tackle these two issues or he simply doesn't believe in them. This makes him little better than Arnold, imo.

So Arnold it is.

[b-cubed]

"Oh please. Arnold is no Giuliani."

I know it but can't a guy have a wishful hope?

[Maelstrom]

Voting is a reflexive action in California...

...that's...so...cute.

Y'all deserve what's happened, we don't. So join Mexico and begone.

[DrMartinVonNostrand]

Don't get me wrong about the impeachment thing. As a private citizen I was and still am thrilled that Clinton will forever be tainted by impeachment.

But it was a bad political move by the Republicans. It was seen as vindictive and partisan by most Americans, and they should have know it would be. There is no way they could not have known. Pragmatic Republicans like Arnold and many others knew it. And especially for Arnold, there is no way he could have survived in Hollywood if he didn't come out against it.

But now that the bar was set so low as lying, the Democrats will forever be looking for anything they can construe as a "lie". Just look at the stupid uranium flap. A dangerous precident was set by the articles of impeachment.

Simply getting Clinton shouldn't be good enough, it needed to be getting him on something GOOD. And we just didn't get it.

I'm just pissed because I would have liked to see Clinton AND Hillary hang for murder, money laundering, and treason.

But look, I'm not saying that Arnold's opposition to impeachment is a reason to support him, I'm just saying it isn't a reason to not to.

[Maelstrom]

Well...except for the fact that yesterday you were pulling for McClintock.

As of now I have you marked more an "anti-conservative" than a "Republican at any cost", but clearly you share the viewpoints of one of the two.

[nyconse]

McClintock can't get elected in California period-why waste your vote. Rome wasn't built in a day-got to take that first step which is weaning California away from Dems. Also, in Georgia it may come down to a pro-life Dem and a pro-choice Repub. I am voting for the Repub. Why? Our best hope to overturn Roe V Wade is through the courts-ie Surpreme Court. A Republican governor in California would help elect more Republicans to the House and Senate (some will be pro-life),maybe even deliver the State to Bush in 2004. A solid Republican congress and a Republican President would get conservative judges confirmed: our best weapon in the abortion debacle and in other important conservative issues.

[Sabertooth]

If he were trashing other FReepers (as many FReepers have been doing the last week or so), your concern might be valid.

There are more ways than that for a new account to seem out of place.

a poster's sign-up date is irrelevant

I almost always agree. In fact, I generally give them a lot of slack, unless they do something genuinely hilarious.

[Maelstrom]

That's right, Arnold is more a Bloomberg than a Guiliani

[Political Junkie Too]

Is California a Dem state or not?

See the map from the 2002 Davis/Simon race:

-PJ

[Maelstrom]

"To repeat my self, Schwarzenegger is a RINO, but that is what it takes to win California"

**This is the mantra Californian Republicans have been telling themselves for the last two election cycles.**

It has been the *practice* of California Republicans for far longer than that with the predictable and verified results.