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Why I Am Now Behind Arnold
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Posted on 08/12/2003 9:52:14 AM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand

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To: Torie
What Arnold thinks about abortion will not change minds about this issue either.

No it won't. It will just reinforce the pro-death position.

441 posted on 08/12/2003 9:25:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
McClintock can not stop abortion-no governor can. Perhaps a Republican in California will help elect more pro-life Repubs to congress thus allowing judges to be confirmed. Abortion is not an issue in the California recall.
442 posted on 08/12/2003 9:25:31 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: EternalVigilance
Let's see if all of a sudden states were given the right to have abortion laws, would all 50 states do so? If not, would one state become the 7-11 of abortions? How about Nevada with legalized prostitution and gambling, think they will outlaw abortion?

And if all 50 states did somehow prohibit abortion, would things go back to the barber shop abortions and those with finances just travel to countries where it is legal? Like any one of over 150 countries? Our neighbor Canada? Over 60% of the world's population lives where abortion is permitted for a wide range of reasons or unrestricted....maybe you should work on the world problem there are a lot more babies to save worldwide than just in the US....we are outsourcing jobs, I guess you want to outsource abortions too, because IMO you won't stop them...

http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/archives/abortww_nr.html

http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/civilize.html#canada
443 posted on 08/12/2003 9:26:59 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: EternalVigilance
If you lose and a Dem is elected what have you gained? If anything you have hurt the pro-life effort which is very important to you and to me.
444 posted on 08/12/2003 9:27:00 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: EternalVigilance
But sir, you are 'doing something about it'. You are helping forward it.

What part of "CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT" don't you understand.

Jurists unanimously agree that Roe v. Wade is settled law.
Even "pro-life" judges.

"Pro-life" is just going to have to exist as one option of "pro-choice". No matter who you vote for in any race, it is not going to change that. But I suppose you don't care so long as your vote is registered in heaven...

445 posted on 08/12/2003 9:27:08 PM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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To: nyconse
Perhaps a Republican in California will help elect more pro-life Repubs to congress thus allowing judges to be confirmed.

That is a very big perhaps.

Why would you ever think that a pro-abort is going to do such a thing?

Governors have a tremendous amount of power, especially when it comes time to pick future candidates.

It is silly to believe he will pick people who are not in his image.

446 posted on 08/12/2003 9:27:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Also, you must have some perspective. Abortion is one issue only in a race where the winner can not effect it one way or the other.
447 posted on 08/12/2003 9:28:22 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: rolling_stone
And if all 50 states did somehow prohibit abortion, would things go back to the barber shop abortions and those with finances just travel to countries where it is legal?

More women die or are seriously injured from botched abortions today in the United States than died or were injured when all states had laws prohibiting abortions. Far, far more women.

448 posted on 08/12/2003 9:29:23 PM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
What part of "CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT" don't you understand.

What part of perversion of justice don't you understand?

The Constitution clearly says that NO PERSON can be deprived of their life or their liberty without due process.

How can you believe that a baby in the womb is not a person?

The justice's reasoning abilities are as faulty as the reasoning powers of the Schwarzenegger supporters here.

449 posted on 08/12/2003 9:30:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
No the Senate is almost 50-50. Repubs don't have the votes to end a filibuster. Solution-elect more Repubs!
450 posted on 08/12/2003 9:30:34 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
Abortion is one issue only in a race where the winner can not effect it one way or the other.

Wrong.

451 posted on 08/12/2003 9:31:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Explain to me how electing McClintock would end abortion?
452 posted on 08/12/2003 9:31:48 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
Solution-elect more Repubs!

I work towards that end every day.

But electing more spineless liberals does no good; no matter which party label they bear.

453 posted on 08/12/2003 9:32:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: rolling_stone
Also, abortion were legal in New York before Roe V Wade.
454 posted on 08/12/2003 9:33:42 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
Also in California, per a bill signed by one who subsequently became president. And so it goes.
455 posted on 08/12/2003 9:34:50 PM PDT by Torie
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To: nyconse
You obviously don't understand the power of the Governorship of the state of California.

It is not just the office itself. It is a bully pulpit. In fact, it is a bully pulpit only exceeded by one other.

The abortion views of the new Governor will impact GOP politics for years to come...setting back the movement, or advancing it.

Personnel is policy.
456 posted on 08/12/2003 9:34:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
He is a Republican-there are far more pro-life Repubs than pro-choice Repubs.
457 posted on 08/12/2003 9:35:10 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
He is a Republican-there are far more pro-life Repubs than pro-choice Repubs.

Sometimes you wouldn't know it by the actions of our leaders.

458 posted on 08/12/2003 9:36:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Tom Jefferson
McClintock has my vote !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
459 posted on 08/12/2003 9:36:54 PM PDT by pollywog
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To: Torie
Reagan signed a bill allowing abortion-no your kidding right?
460 posted on 08/12/2003 9:37:34 PM PDT by nyconse
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