Why I Am Now Behind Arnold

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[EternalVigilance]

Your arguments about polls, and your suppositions about who or who cannot win leave me cold absent some indication of a single conservative principle in Schwarzenegger's heart or mind.

There are times when you fight even when the odds are stacked against you.

Those who surrender all principle simply because someone says they can't win are cowards.

[EternalVigilance]

Doc, your reasoning is circular, and totally ignores the injustice of taking the life of the innocent unborn.

As I told you earlier today, you are a good fit to be supporting Schwarzenegger.

[EternalVigilance]

According to the Supreme Court and reinforced in case law over the past 30 years, abortion is a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT.

And amazingly, it is still a gross injustice.

Imagine that! The courts are wrong.

Ever hear of Dred Scott?

[nyconse]

Backbone is great; I like backbone-really. However, it's not helping in the Senate where Bush's judges are not getting confirmed. We need more Repubs in congress. We need a loyal Repub in California to help with the 2004 elections and despite some comments on this thread Arnold (I'm not typing that long last name so tough if you don't like it.) has been a loyal Republican. It would make me very, very happy to elect a conservative in California for governor, but I will settle for a mere very happy if we elect a Republican! Look at the big picture-guys.

[DrMartinVonNostrand]

Is it true that when an abortion is performed, a little child dies, or not?

Is it true that everytime you masturbate God kills a kitten?

[Duramaximus]

There's no way I'm going to have my vote stampeded by people who aren't thinking beyond 2004, and who don't have the knowledge or the desire for my State's best interests in them.

I agree.

That is why my vote will go to Tom McClintock.

Tom McClintock represents those conservative values I believe in with all my being.

Arnold is nothing more than a lackey for Ted Kennedy.

[EternalVigilance]

However, it's not helping in the Senate where Bush's judges are not getting confirmed.

See, you just don't get it.

The problem is that the Senate is full of compromisers and wimps--the very kind of people that are being touted as some kind of saviors of California.

I'm sorry, but you're delusional.

[DrMartinVonNostrand]

Doc, your reasoning is circular, and totally ignores the injustice of taking the life of the innocent unborn.

Nope, my logic is: if you can't do anything about it, then positions on the matter are moot.

[Torie]

I know it is not true, but the leitmotif of so many of your posts seem grounded on the assumption that other posters are either idiots, or unaware of the consequences of their actions in the public square. That is NOT true of most posters on this site. Most act in accordance with their own conscience, and their reasoned judgment as to what choices lie before them as a practical matter, and what issues really matter in individual elections. I find it odd that you think abortion really matters in the recall election, when the governor will have no influence on that given the judicial posture, and the posture of the state legislature, which in the latter case is not going to change one iota towards your position for the forseeable future. Still I respect your wishing to make a statement on the issue. That is fine. But respect goes both ways. JMO.

[EternalVigilance]

Juvenile.

[EternalVigilance]

Sorry, but the assertion that the Governor of California is unimportant to the future of the debate over abortion is ludicrous.

[EternalVigilance]

Nope, my logic is: if you can't do anything about it, then positions on the matter are moot.

But sir, you are 'doing something about it'. You are helping forward it.

[nyconse]

You did a great job explaining Lady. I agree-hearts and minds must change. It is working the number of people against abortion continues to rise. The Democrats make abortion a litmus test for judges which is wrong. Republicans souldn't have a litmus test for candidates either. It won't end abortion and hurts the party.

[DrMartinVonNostrand]

According to the Supreme Court and reinforced in case law over the past 30 years, abortion is a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT. And amazingly, it is still a gross injustice. Imagine that! The courts are wrong. Ever hear of Dred Scott?

Yes, I stated I think the Supreme Court GOT THE LAW WRONG on Roe v. Wade. I know all too well that Courts are capable of making bad rulings.

And I am also familiar with Dred Scott. I take it you believed the Supreme Court made a mistake when they overturned it?

[Torie]

Well, I don't agree (folks are not going to change their mind on this issue based on what some governor says, particularly one from California), but in any event, you will have to find some governor of some other state, to spead the word. One stating that they will use the governor's office to agitate about abortion in your direction, is the kiss of political death in California.

[EternalVigilance]

The Democrats make abortion a litmus test for judges which is wrong. Republicans souldn't have a litmus test for candidates either. It won't end abortion and hurts the party.

The Democrats just love that type of naivete.

They laugh all the way to the political bank.

[EternalVigilance]

I take it you believed the Supreme Court made a mistake when they overturned it?

You are being too cute by half.

[EternalVigilance]

One stating that they will use the governor's office to agitate about abortion in your direction, is the kiss of political death in California.

Who said he had to take such a position? I didn't.

But he and his crowd tend strongly to doing the exact opposite of that.

[Torie]

OK, let me flip it then. What Arnold thinks about abortion will not change minds about this issue either.

[EternalVigilance]

Yes, I stated I think the Supreme Court GOT THE LAW WRONG on Roe v. Wade.

So, why then do you support candidates who take the exact opposite view on such a critical life and death issue?