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Why I Am Now Behind Arnold
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Posted on 08/12/2003 9:52:14 AM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand

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To: EternalVigilance
In the name of Jesus, I should support a pro-death, homo-loving Leftist?

It doesn't matter who we support. We don't get to vote, you and I.

241 posted on 08/12/2003 4:34:18 PM PDT by sinkspur (Get a dog! He'll change your life!)
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To: EternalVigilance
"I didn't realize before this how many 'electibility-before-principle' types had come to inhabit FR."

Just stick an (R) before a celebrity candidate's name -- any name -- and RINOs will regard it as the Second Coming...

Let's try it: 'Alec Baldwin(R) For Governor.'

"Hey -- looks goooood...."

242 posted on 08/12/2003 4:34:22 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Torie
Ya, I know McClintock is a longshot right now. So what?

Fine, but you're gonna miss the Kool-aid chugging contest.


243 posted on 08/12/2003 4:34:24 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Where do Arnold and McClintock stand on California Drivers' Licenses for Illegal Aliens?)
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To: F16Fighter
Hey, he's a shoo-in!

Can't imagine how his platform could be any worse than the current hero of the hacks.
244 posted on 08/12/2003 4:35:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
It's the new gop.

It's now the Al Davis republican party..........

Who cares about principle, or character, or doing what's right...................

Just WIN baby !!!
245 posted on 08/12/2003 4:37:07 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Deficit $455,000,000,000 + MY VOTE IS FOR SALE)
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To: EternalVigilance
It's the new gop.

It's now the Al Davis republican party..........

Who cares about principle, or character, or doing what's right...................

Just WIN baby !!!
246 posted on 08/12/2003 4:37:20 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Deficit $455,000,000,000 + MY VOTE IS FOR SALE)
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To: WhiteGuy
:-(
247 posted on 08/12/2003 4:38:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
You guys have been trashing people over this for a week.

Have I called you Fred Phelps? Maybe I ought to call you Fred Phelps for a while, and see how you like it. Comparing Schwarzenegger to Mengele is vile, which is waht I was reacting to..

And, if I compare the two camps, I don't see anybody trashing McClintock; they're just saying he can't win.

You do nothing but point to Arnold's pro-choice stance, and act as if the governor of California is going to be able to do anything about abortion anyway.

I'm sorry your guy's losing, but you seem to have a propensity to tie yourself to nags who bring up the rear.

248 posted on 08/12/2003 4:40:12 PM PDT by sinkspur (Get a dog! He'll change your life!)
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To: Ann Archy
"Tom McClintock can NOT get elected...."

If McClintock could explain just how he would get the Unions and other state workers to accept a 9.5% cut, I might consider voting for him. Not to mention how do you "merely" suspend a mandate ?

From his website -"Thus, merely suspending these mandates and reducing current expenditures by 9.5 percent – and then holding at that level for 18 months – ...."
249 posted on 08/12/2003 4:41:35 PM PDT by RS (nc)
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To: EternalVigilance
Why don't you knock off that "homo-loving" crap; there are people on this board that actually HAVE gays in their families or KNOW gays in their real lives.
250 posted on 08/12/2003 4:42:43 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: EternalVigilance
One million plus Republicans voted for Keyes in 2000.

hahahaha!
That is nationwide, out of something like 60 million registered Republicans!

251 posted on 08/12/2003 4:45:03 PM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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To: sinkspur
I have pointed out a whole range of issues that Schwarzenegger holds that are, or should be, anathema to Republicans--not just the fact that he is pro-death.

As to losing nags, it all depends on what you consider to be 'winning'. Electing liberals doesn't qualify, at least to me.

Good evening.
252 posted on 08/12/2003 4:47:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin
Why don't you knock off that "homo-loving" crap; there are people on this board that actually HAVE gays in their families or KNOW gays in their real lives.

Yes, or there may even be some Log Cabin Republicans around.
Wait, they're just a bunch of RINOs too. If they were "true conservatives" they would persecute themselves. ;-)

253 posted on 08/12/2003 4:47:59 PM PDT by DrMartinVonNostrand
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To: nyconse; DrMartinVonNostrand
"The key point here is this-getting a Republican elected is what is important. "

This is where you're wrong. Putting a Republican in the governorship accomplishes nothing if the state continues it's downhill slide. If anything it's *better* for Democrats that this happens, because this absolves them from responsibility for the policies that drove California down. After all, the Republicans can do no better.

A conservative, however, will do better, and create the sort of soul-searching that will persuade Californians that maybe everything they "know" about conservatives is a lie.

"Not really-Bloomberg is a Democrat who only changed his party so he could run in the Republican primary-less crowded field."

I submit it is the same thing because "Democrat" or "Republican" are only gross labels. The philosophical approach toward politics should be the determining factor.

It's not the "R" or "D" at the end of the name that deserves the vote. It is the candidates' underpinning principles that drive their choices as your representatives that determine your vote.

This is why many of us do not understand why Riordan was even on the primary ballot...the philosophical underpinnings of his politics are NO DIFFERENT THAN THOSE OF DAVIS.
254 posted on 08/12/2003 4:48:04 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: EternalVigilance
'You can claim to be pro-gun til your face turns blue, but when you empower politicians who despise our God-given unalienable rights, you are in any case functionally anti-gun/anti-self-defense.'

God now wrote the constitution? I suppose it is also a God-given unalienable right for gang-bangers to drive through my neighborhood using a piece of crud to spit out fifty bullets faster than they can think of the answer to 2+2?

I’ve got nine rifles, three revolvers and one semi-auto. My kid has a pump shotgun. I can’t even keep track of what all my wife has. Do I care if you’re denied an AR-15? Not in the slightest. Does that mean I’m anti-gun? According to your guide, I must be, since I want to deny you the holy machinegun.
255 posted on 08/12/2003 4:48:35 PM PDT by kingu
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To: Howlin
Sorry for my gross insensitivity to the homo-lo...er...people on this board that actually HAVE gays in their families or KNOW gays in their real lives.
256 posted on 08/12/2003 4:49:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Spoken with true sensitivity, I can see. Par for the course.
257 posted on 08/12/2003 4:52:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
If I have to pick a side, I'll pick the side where people aren't so damn judgmental.
258 posted on 08/12/2003 4:53:34 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: DrMartinVonNostrand
That is nationwide, out of something like 60 million registered Republicans!

Yes, and you aren't fit to untie their shoelaces.

Without them, the GOP would have not a bit of backbone left in it. It would be as useless as a jellyfish...RAT Party II.

Just what we need.

By the way, there were about 20 million who voted in the 2000 primaries.

259 posted on 08/12/2003 4:54:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: sinkspur
"A truly stupid and insipid remark. Did you get dropped on your head on a runway somewhere?"

LOL -- it's been awhile since we've had a make-out session ;-)

"What the hell is the matter with you McClintocks? Just read through this thread and see who's spewing the most bile, who's quick with the insults, who trashes anyone who disagrees with them."

Quite frankly, a whole lot of us are "insulted" that Hollywood poseurs of principle and conservatism AND their respective rabid supporters demand that we ALL fall in line for the sake of that one itty-bitty sacred initial -- (R).

My apologies to Aaah-noldphiliacs -- I'm NOT getting on my knees.

260 posted on 08/12/2003 4:54:33 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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