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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

In Cobb County, Ga., controversy erupted this spring when school board officials decided to affix "disclaimer stickers" to science textbooks, alerting students that "evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things."

The stickers were the Cobb County District School Board's response to intelligent design theory, which holds that the complexity of DNA and the diversity of life forms on our planet and beyond can be explained only by an extra-natural intelligent agent. The ID movement -- reminiscent of creationism but more nuanced and harder to label -- has been quietly gaining momentum in a number of states for several years, especially Georgia and Ohio.

Stickers on textbooks are only the latest evidence of the ID movement's successes to date, though Cobb County officials did soften their position somewhat in September following a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. In a subsequent policy statement, officials said the biological theory of evolution is a "disputed view" that must be "balanced" in the classroom, taking into account other, religious teachings.

Surely, few would begrudge ID advocates their views or the right to discuss the concept as part of religious studies. At issue, rather, is whether ID theory, so far unproven by scientific facts, should be served to students on the same platter with the well-supported theory of evolution.

How the Cobb County episode will affect science students remains uncertain since, as the National Center for Science Education noted, the amended policy statement included "mixed signals."

But it's clear that the ID movement is quickly emerging as one of the more significant threats to U.S. science education, fueled by a sophisticated marketing campaign based on a three-pronged penetration of the scientific community, educators and the general public.

In Ohio, the state's education board on Oct. 14 passed a unanimous though preliminary vote to keep ID theory out of the state's science classrooms. But the board's ruling left the door open for local school districts to present ID theory together with science and suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

In fact, even while the state-level debate continued, the Patrick Henry Local School District, based in Columbus, passed a motion this June to support "the idea of intelligent design being included as appropriate in classroom discussions in addition to other scientific theories."

Undaunted by tens of thousands of e-mails it has already received on the topic, the state's education board is now gamely inviting further public comment through November. In December, Ohio's Board of Education will vote to conclusively determine whether alternatives to evolution should be included in new guidelines that spell out what students need to know about science at different grade levels.

Meanwhile, ID theorists reportedly have been active in Missouri, Kansas, New Mexico, New Jersey and other states as well as Ohio and Georgia.

What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.

In fact, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the largest general scientific society in the world, passed a resolution this month urging policy-makers to keep intelligent design theory out of U.S. science classrooms.

Noting that the United States has promised to "leave no child behind," the AAAS Board found that intelligent design theory -- if presented within science courses as factually based -- is likely to confuse American schoolchildren and undermine the integrity of U.S. science education. At a time when standards-based learning and performance assessments are paramount, children would be better served by keeping scientific information separate from religious concepts.

Certainly, American society supports and encourages a broad range of viewpoints and the scientific community is no exception. While this diversity enriches the educational experience for students, science and conceptual belief systems should not be co-mingled, as ID proponents have repeatedly proposed.

The ID argument that random mutations in nature and natural selection, for example, are too complex for scientific explanation is an interesting -- and for some, highly compelling -- philosophical or theological concept. Unfortunately, it's being put forth as a scientifically based alternative to the theory of biological evolution, and it isn't based on science. In sum, there's no data to back it up, and no way of scientifically testing the validity of the ideas proposed by ID advocates.

The quality of U.S. science education is at stake here. We live in an era when science and technology are central to every issue facing our society -- individual and national security, health care, economic prosperity, employment opportunities.

Children who lack an appropriate grounding in science and mathematics, and who can't discriminate what is and isn't evidence, are doomed to lag behind their well-educated counterparts. America's science classrooms are certainly no place to mix church and state.

Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


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To: Dimensio
Here are a few:
Biological Science: Inquiry into life (yellow version) Hartcort Brace, Javanovich,
BSCS by Holt Rinehart
some versions by Merrill, Scott Foresman and more. These texts are saturated with that and much evolution.
601 posted on 06/23/2003 1:39:17 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: JudgemAll
1. Why only one original being at the origin and not four or five?

Because it is highly improbable that multiple seperate origins would all have the same 4 amino acids in their DNA/RNA out of all the amino acids available

2. Why is the environment never evolving dynamicaly but is static with Darwin's theory? Hence Darwin does not reflect relativistic aspects of evolution and social adaptation, let alone super adaptation through calculation.

3. While quantum mechanics show a change in speed of the particle as its position is observed, so does animal behavior change when it feel observed or not. This form of unknown and behavior of adaptation to the unknown is not even touched upon the primitive deterministic naive Darwinian approach.

Because you are reading 19th Century Darwinian Evolution, not current theory.

4. And while a tree branch grows thanks to a DNA program, in chaotic manner with a strange attractor, so has evolution seemed to follow a strange attractor and a program. The "DNA" of ID has not been found, but it can be programmed in a computer to create intelligently evolving machines, just as regular full chaotic evolution can be programmed too but with lesser effectiveness.

I think that is a matter of perception, not actuality, akin too the Anthropic Principle in physics.

So9

602 posted on 06/23/2003 1:40:48 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: goodseedhomeschool
Oh, and I have also seen it's reference in History texts as well. Please don't major on the minor, the old bait and swtch won't work here. Ever since that theory surfaced, it has been included in many textbooks. Not to mention movies like Jurassic Park.
603 posted on 06/23/2003 1:41:39 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: jlogajan
If in reality, everything we believe is a theory, then reality is theory.

You have more faith than any Christian I know.
604 posted on 06/23/2003 1:43:05 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: Dimensio
Mel and Gloria Gabler In Texas can provide you with all the details you would want in this matter. If you go to their website, they will be glad to send you any info you need as far as which books contain it and more.
605 posted on 06/23/2003 1:43:55 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: js1138
The level of discourse does seem to have degenerated sharply. It is also interesting to see that the factoids usually tossed out to rebut evolution (moon dust, dino/man tracks, seawater salinity, etc.) have been reduced of late to a monolitic "no evidence" argument. Shouting "no evidence" over and over (even in the face of evidence) seems preferable these days to having your favorite anti-evolution silver bullet jam in the magazine again.

There has, however, been one entertaining aspect to these recent threads -- the development of alternatives to the worn out epithet "evilutionist". ALS and ApesForEvolution have contributed on this thread alone: crap religion; crap theory; evotards; evolunacy; e-loons; evo-mantra; evo-lie; and convolutionists. Granted, this seems to be all they've contributed, but the bar ain't real high with these folks, so let's give credit where credit is due.
606 posted on 06/23/2003 1:46:00 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: Dimensio
I have read so many school textbooks in the last 5 years Dimensio. I have been on several textbook selection commitees and more. When I started homeschooling my son, I spent over a year at a textbook recycling warehouse just trying to find the right books to use.
607 posted on 06/23/2003 1:47:59 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
BTW I selected Abeka and Apologia for Physical science, Biology and Chemistry. They are outstanding. I am still on the fence for Physics. Since my child will be a sophmore next year, I am still on the lookout for one.
608 posted on 06/23/2003 1:50:20 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: Dimensio
Mel Gabler
"What are they teaching our children"
P.O. Box 7518
Longview, TX 75607
fax: (903)753-7788

Good Book to read: Textbooks on Trial by: James C. Hefley
610 posted on 06/23/2003 1:54:39 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: goodseedhomeschool
Every parent in America with a child in public school next year must insist on viewing the content of every textbook their child will use. If you don't, then you may regret it. Some schools will try to prevent you, but be insistant.
611 posted on 06/23/2003 2:00:24 PM PDT by goodseedhomeschool
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To: atlaw
There has, however, been one entertaining aspect to these recent threads -- the development of alternatives to the worn out epithet "evilutionist". ALS and ApesForEvolution have contributed on this thread alone: crap religion; crap theory; evotards; evolunacy; e-loons; evo-mantra; evo-lie; and convolutionists. Granted, this seems to be all they've contributed, but the bar ain't real high with these folks, so let's give credit where credit is due.

BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

612 posted on 06/23/2003 2:04:25 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: js1138
It isn't all they've contributed. ALS has set a new low standard for truthfulness, and has spammed the threads with irrelevant images that discourage modem types from browing the thread. Gore has contributed a false bibliography in an attempt to prove Stephen Gould to be a communist. These are serious contributions, and the fact that others on their side haven't called them on it says something about the quality of their character.

That's all true, but it's nothing new. Unfortunately.

613 posted on 06/23/2003 2:06:27 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: Steel Eye
And the one thing I have learned for certain, is how little I know,....

If only all mankind could understand this simple fact, the arrogance of science and man in general is actually laughable.

The one thing I know is how little I know.

614 posted on 06/23/2003 2:09:14 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: ALS
No replies to that? interesting
615 posted on 06/23/2003 2:14:15 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: balrog666
Hard to believe this thread hasn't been pulled yet placemarker.

Festival of ignorance proving that civilization is doomed placemarker.

616 posted on 06/23/2003 2:19:35 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: AntiGuv
empirical support?

Verifiable or provable by means of observation or experiment: empirical laws

or

Relying on or derived from observation or experiment: empirical results that supported the hypothesis
617 posted on 06/23/2003 2:22:22 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: PatrickHenry
"One irony of this painstakingly cautious approach is that ... naturalism may die of natural causes --- before ID advocates reach steps two or three. In the upper echelons of research and scholarship, naturalistic theories’ frailty is more and more freely acknowledged. Even if ID proponents do nothing to expose the inadequacies and inconsistencies of its explanation for the cosmos and life, naturalism may self-destruct."

"Winning the argument for design without identifying the designer yields, at best, a sketchy origins model. Such a model makes little if any positive impact on the community of scientists and other scholars. Such a model does not lend itself to verification, nor can it make specific, credible predictions. On both counts, scholars, particularly scientists, would be reluctant to acknowledge the concept’s viability and give it serious attention. Nor does this approach offer them spiritual direction."

"As I speak on university campuses and elsewhere, I see a larger challenge to Christianity than naturalism: the challenge of a vague or idiosyncratic spirituality, faith detached from objective truth and legitimate spiritual authority. In fact, virtually all forms of spirituality except Christianity seem in vogue with the new “spiritual” people, who tend to be less receptive than nontheists to the Christian gospel. In other words, leading a nontheist to a belief in an “intelligent designer” could do more spiritual harm than good."

618 posted on 06/23/2003 2:22:50 PM PDT by f.Christian (( I'm going to rechristen evolution, in honor of f.Christian, "shlockology"... HumanaeVitae ))
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To: Aric2000
Evolution is SCIENCE, NOT a belief system as you creos like to claim.

Scientific process is not the oracle of truth. We often apply science to a belief (hypothesis (and some have been pretty dumb)) and try to verify the belief, the fact that the belief is going through the process does not make it truth or fact.

619 posted on 06/23/2003 2:30:21 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: Sentis
"I am a scientist and I agree with Aric2000. Given some scientific evidence for ID I would have no problem with it being taught but since ID is thinly disguised religious dogma it has no place in a science class."



Evolution is thinly disguised crap dogma. A REAL scientist keeps thinking. You seem to have given up.

Hang in there, science will come around eventually, if we can weed out the dogmatists.
620 posted on 06/23/2003 2:32:57 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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