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Genetic Changes In Mice 'Question Evolution Speed'
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| 5-21-2003
Posted on 05/21/2003 4:53:28 PM PDT by blam
Genetic changes in mice 'question evolution speed'
A species of mouse has evolved dramatically in just 150 years, showing genetic change can occur much faster than was thought possible.
The discovery was made by accident by two American biologists studying the genetic make-up of a common wild mouse in Chicago.
Dr Dennis Nyberg and Dr Oliver Pergams, both from the University of Illinois at Chicago, analysed DNA samples from 56 museum specimens of the white-footed mouse dating back to 1855, and 52 wild mice captured from local forests and parks.
They found startling genetic differences between the 19th century and modern mice.
Only one of the present-day mice had DNA that matched that of mice collected before 1950.
While fast evolutionary change has been seen in fruit flies, such rapid evolution in a mammal has not been reported before.
The scientists, whose findings appear in the journal Nature, believe humans may have been partly responsible for the "new" mice.
"Settlers may have brought in mice with the favourable gene that were able to out-compete mice with the native variant," said Dr Pergams.
Story filed: 18:18 Wednesday 21st May 2003
TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: crevolist; genetics
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brb
I gotta go get rid of this laughter
1,061
posted on
05/28/2003 2:18:09 PM PDT
by
ALS
(Darwins Hypothesis was full of holes, that have since been filled, that is why it is called a theory)
To: Right Wing Professor
Dr absent minded science believes ...
the decomposition of matter -- energy (( entropy )) is evolution (( GAS )) ---
an explanation of life -- existence -- science !
1,062
posted on
05/28/2003 2:19:16 PM PDT
by
f.Christian
(( apocalypsis, from Gr. apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover))
To: ALS
awww.. looky, now they are using "belief" as a form of science. again.
To: Dataman
Where did you get a picture of my dog?
To: Dataman
That's a good picture for what you are doing.
VERY good Dataman, we will get you straightened out yet.
1,065
posted on
05/28/2003 2:21:30 PM PDT
by
Aric2000
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Where did you get a picture of my dog? Your dog gave me a link.
To: Dataman
Damn, I told her to get off the computer!
Last month, she logged on to the Petco site and ordered a container truck of kibble.
To: Lurking Libertarian
Last month, she logged on to the Petco site and ordered a container truck of kibble. Take away her credit card.
To: ALS
Look, curtting and pasting other people's words from your favorite fundamentalist Christian links isn't an argument. Anyone who's been around on crevo threads more than a week (and unlike you, I suspect, I've read some of his creationist writings
and some of the real science he was doing previously. Johnson is a lawyer. He's as qualified to pontificat on evolution as I am on the Commerce Clause (though I suppose it doesn't stop me either). Arguments that ID is not religiously motivated are tough to make when the founders of the movement candidly admit their motivations are at least in part religious.
The student is wrong in stating that evolution violates the second law. Evolution can be and has been reproduced and observed. And so on. Nor is the piece you pasted particularly well-written.
To: Aric2000
Good News For The Day
But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. (Matthew 6:33)
"Once there was a change in our family situation. Our pet dog passed away and we salved our grief by acquiring a new one-a blue cattle pup. He was intelligent and very mischievous. We had a lot of fun with him. while he was small, he would amuse us by trying to catch his own tail and bite it. He would spy the tip of his tail out of the corner of his eye, and, readying himself, lunge at it, as if hunting prey. But of course, the more he pounced, the more his tail moved out of his reach. The only way a dog can really have its tail is to allow it to be an attachment to its main body."
"The... tail comes along just fine---when it is not its owner's preoccupation."
"Jesus advises us that though there are many good and important things, only one can be most important-the kingdom of God and his righteousness. First things must come first. All of life, with its experiences, decisions and relationships, needs to be evaluated in light of the highest ideal."
"When God is given pride of place, the machinery of existence operates at its best."
1,070
posted on
05/28/2003 2:28:23 PM PDT
by
f.Christian
(( apocalypsis, from Gr. apokalypsis, from apokalyptein to uncover, from apo- + kalyptein to cover))
To: Right Wing Professor
Anyone who's been around on crevo threads more than a weekThis should have read ' Anyone who's been around on crevo threads more than a week knows of Behe's book.'
To: ALS
(Charles Darwin to Asa Gray, cited by Adrian Desmond and James Moore, Darwin, (New York: W.W. Norton and Company, 1991) p. 456, 475.) go buy the book, lazy
OK guys, I bought the book. It's a paperback, so the page numbering is different. It will take a while to find the quote and scan it, But I promise the quote will be placed in full context.
To: ALS
"a" naturalistic origin of species? which one? I know of Lamarckianism and Darwinism. What others are there? Anything that includes 'and then a supernatural being came along...' is excluded.
To: js1138
Cool, I want to see it, this should be as good as the last one he did.
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posted on
05/28/2003 2:33:11 PM PDT
by
Aric2000
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To: Right Wing Professor
Here comes the whining, BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!
Get ready for it, because it's coming again.
1,075
posted on
05/28/2003 2:36:40 PM PDT
by
Aric2000
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To: PatrickHenry
I think the answer is clear: some of us have evolved from slime, and some of us were created.
To: Lurking Libertarian
To: gore3000
However, no one is able to break scientific laws at all, Really? So the Perihilion of Mercury experiment was impossible, because it would have violated Newton's Laws of Gravity?
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posted on
05/28/2003 2:44:57 PM PDT
by
donh
(/)
To: Imagine
And those who were evolved from slime know who they are and those who were created by God know who they are.
To: Imagine
I like your attitude
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posted on
05/28/2003 2:47:57 PM PDT
by
Aric2000
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