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"Even more posts on homosexuality...i'm curious as to why?"
Catholic Family Association of America/ Free Republic ^ | 5/1/03 | Dr. Brian Kopp, Vice President, Catholic Family Association of America

Posted on 05/01/2003 2:41:23 PM PDT by Polycarp

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To: RAT Patrol
All the lesbians I know (friends of my niece) look like men. Every last one of them.

Your limited exposure to lesbians is obvious. I lived in an Apt building above a lesbian club in Miami Beach...and most of lesbians you would see there were absolutely gorgeous. Enough to tick off any man!

401 posted on 05/02/2003 7:53:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
The gay rights organizations almost across the board oppose and condemn groups like NAMBLA that condone sex with minors and advocate lowering the age of consent.

In the early 70's - I think 72 - when homo activists had one of their initial meetings to figure out their agenda, they wanted to abolish the age of consent. But it looked bad later, so they changed it to just lowering the age of consent. They want to lower it gradually.

NAMBLA is prohibited from taking part in so-called "gay pride parades"(which allow almost any kind of gross behavior) and almost nobody in the gay rights movement will have anything to do with such groups.

This is solely for PR and I don't even accept that it is true. My husband lived in SF for years and ran into a couple of "Gay Pride" parades - and saw men barely dressed in leather carrying little boys with chains around their necks and pulling them by leashes, some had NAMBLA signs. NAMBLA has kind of gone underground from what I understand but it is commonly known that homosexuals are often attracted to sex with young people down to pre-adolescents. Evidence? Homosexuals going in large numbers to countries where there are many child prostitues - like the Philippines. Thailand, etc. Remember a movie a few years ago called something like "Soldier's Story"? I lived in SF at the time. It was promoted as a LOVE STORY between a man in his 20's and a 12 year old boy. There's tons of more evidence but this is a tiny start.

Though statistics show there are more heterosexual pedophiles, this is because heterosexuals make up most of the population. So I wouldn't be surprised if there was a higher percetage of pedophiles among homosexuals...but the idea that "chickenhawking" is a prominent part of the general homosexual population is a ridiculous claim.

You admit that there "may be" more pedophile homos than heteros because there is so much hard evidence that this is so. The numbers I've seen are something like 35- 45% of molestations are men on boys and homosexuals are around 2% of the popluation so figure it out. Then to say that chickenhawking isn't prominent?

402 posted on 05/02/2003 8:09:19 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Polycarp
Did you read any of my posts to Jorge?!?
I've responded to at least 8 of them already...and your attempts at "proving" your claim are so weak..they are absolutely laughable.

Most of them have nothing whatsoever to do with your claim that sex with minors is an integral and commonly accepted part of the gay community.

There are so many gaps and errors in your arguments that I hardly know where to begin addressing them all.
I have however been dismantling them one by one...and perhaps in conclusion I can summarize them all in relation to the general error of your original premise.

403 posted on 05/02/2003 8:11:00 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
You didn't answer the question, yet you ask of me the answer. I will tell you; No, I am not a homosexual. I am also a 57 years old man. I am not a liar, and I have well understood the flow of this thread and have read your continued effort to play 'homosexual apologia'. The deviancy you defend yet try to deny you're defending is one of the great corrosives within American society. Too many want to call deviancy normal and normal intolerant. Frankly, it is time for normal society, with children and elderly parents to protect, to become more intolerant of deviancy.

Do you wonder why I mention elderly parents to be defended?... Homosexuals working in the Nursing Home where my family chose to place my Father, molested my Father. When we made an effort to have the authorities do something about this outrage, we were informed that homosexuals cannot be dealt with as forcefully in courts, if the community wants to remain peaceful and not have to spend enormous amounts to deal with the homosexual activist's legal goons who would descend to defend the accused homosexuals. I can assure you, however, that those two sexual predators will not molest another man in that nursing home.

404 posted on 05/02/2003 8:17:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Jorge
The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation deplores North American Man Boy Love Association's (NAMBLA) goals, which include advocacy for sex between adult men and boys and the removal of legal protections for children. These goals constitute a form of child abuse and are repugnant to GLAAD.

This was a press release put out solely for the purpose of PUBLICLY disaassociating themselves from NAMBLA - it was a publicity stunt. It was because a group of pro-homo organizations was getting involved in the UN in some way and it turned out that NAMBLA was in the umbrella group. This raised a little concern even in the UN. So in order to worm their way into the UN, GLAAD had to publicly disavow their affilitation or connection with NAMBLA.

Question - why do you so slavishly and fawningly try to prove that homosexuals are not predators of the young even when all the evidence is to the contrary? Hmmm?

405 posted on 05/02/2003 8:20:29 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
Jorge;"The gay rights organizations almost across the board oppose and condemn groups like NAMBLA that condone sex with minors and advocate lowering the age of consent."

In the early 70's - I think 72 - when homo activists had one of their initial meetings to figure out their agenda, they wanted to abolish the age of consent. But it looked bad later, so they changed it to just lowering the age of consent. They want to lower it gradually.

Can you show me any documented evidence...any statements from gay rights organizations to support this?

I haven't seen it..except from NAMBLA which is an extremist fringe group.
And of course there are some heterosexuals promoting the same garbage.

Statements I've seen from gay organizations explicitly oppose the agenda of NAMBLA and those promoting sex with minors.

406 posted on 05/02/2003 8:21:14 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: nosofar

Exactly..

It's cheering a loose cannon that happened to go off in the desired direction.. once.

What will be hit the next time it goes careening across the deck is anyone’s guess. This is not a firm foundation for our system of government or our rule of law.

It's like betting the Constitution on a crap game. I cannot believe he said that and was serious.

I am still amazed he had nerve enough to post it on FR.

407 posted on 05/02/2003 8:21:45 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: MHGinTN
I am not a liar, and I have well understood the flow of this thread and have read your continued effort to play 'homosexual apologia'. The deviancy you defend yet try to deny you're defending is one of the great corrosives within American society. Too many want to call deviancy normal and normal intolerant.

Once again I ask you to show me and anybody else on this board the post where I have ever defended deviant behavior.
If what you say is the truth then post it here for all to see.
Until you can do so I will continue to state the fact that you have made false accusations against me that you in fact cannot prove. That makes you a liar.

408 posted on 05/02/2003 8:32:48 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: sinkspur
I agree completely with public lewdness, but misdemeanors for private sexual acts?

I think it's pretty obvious that cops are not going to go searching for sodomists, but at least it might keep people from sodomizing each other in public, which is ruining many public places like parks, beaches, etc.

409 posted on 05/02/2003 8:33:09 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Jorge
All of your posts stand as cumulative evidence in your 'apologia for deviancy'. [You'll have to do better than the piddling insult you've thrown, trying to say I'm a liar. You're dealing with adults here, apologist, so do try to control your hysteria.]
410 posted on 05/02/2003 8:38:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: philetus
A quote from the review of the gay movie L.I.E, "An ode to the beauty of the teenage boy" nuff said.
411 posted on 05/02/2003 8:40:02 PM PDT by redangus
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To: msmikk
Real lesbians don't want fake male parts involved in sex any more than straight men do.

How would you know what real lesbians do?

412 posted on 05/02/2003 8:42:04 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
"The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation deplores North American Man Boy Love Association's (NAMBLA) goals, which include advocacy for sex between adult men and boys and the removal of legal protections for children. These goals constitute a form of child abuse and are repugnant to GLAAD."

This was a press release put out solely for the purpose of PUBLICLY disassociating themselves from NAMBLA - it was a publicity stunt.

How do you know this? Are you in so tight with GLAAD and other gay rights organizations that you know all the behind the scenes action? You know that these people are secretly supporting NAMBLA and sex with minors yet make public statements condemning NAMBLA as repugnant...just for PR purposes?

Sorry..if that was the case then NAMBLA could easily expose their duplicity.

The idea that you claim to know more about these gay groups than their public statements is rather curious. Can you explain your inside info?

413 posted on 05/02/2003 8:43:42 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
A review of the top 60 Gay flix list will show 11 with adolescense boys as their topic, 10 school-boys, 6 Intergenerational love, 4 man-boy love seems like a trend to me. NAMBLA couldn't be prouder. This info comes from the "Outinindy.com website.
414 posted on 05/02/2003 8:44:01 PM PDT by redangus
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To: sinkspur
Perhaps we should just do the same thing we did for the first 180-odd years in the history of this republic. Severely discourage the practice, try to help those afflicted achieve spiritual healing, and as for the those who can't/won't be healed, as long as they're quiet about it, pay it little heed.

Emphasis: paying it little heed.

It's impossible to pay it little heed when it homo activists shove it in our face, our kids' faces, and on and on and on. If they kept it in the closet hardly anyone would know or care.

The whole point - and you must know this - is that homo activists want to change the face of society - have you read "After the Ball"?

415 posted on 05/02/2003 8:46:47 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: MHGinTN
All of your posts stand as cumulative evidence in your 'apologia for deviancy'.

If this was true then you could easily find at least one of my posts....or a single quote from me to support your claim.
Where is it?

All I requested is for you to present anything I have posted that "defends deviancy"...and after 3 posts you still have not been able to do so.
All you can do is parrot the same baseless accusation over and over again.
You are pathetic.
And you are a liar.
You are a pathetic liar.

416 posted on 05/02/2003 8:50:24 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Your hysteria is comical.
417 posted on 05/02/2003 8:51:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Jorge
I understand that molestation of kids is wrong...but it's happened to a whole lot of kids...and they pick up the pieces and move on in life.

This is a hard hearted viewpoint. Being raped or molested when a young child is an emotional trauma that often has lifelong negative effects. I disagree with you often but this takes the cake. You are callously minimizing the horror of child molesting. It is sickening.

418 posted on 05/02/2003 8:54:23 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: redangus
A review of the top 60 Gay flix list will show 11 with adolescense boys as their topic, 10 school-boys, 6 Intergenerational love, 4 man-boy love seems like a trend to me. NAMBLA couldn't be prouder.

This is illegal. How do you find this crap?

419 posted on 05/02/2003 8:54:54 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
The website was mentioned in a fluff piece Indianapolis Star did on Homosexual websites(5/1/03, City/State section page 2). I checked out a couple just to see what they had on them. This particular site had a movie review section. Included was a top 60 lists with movie themes used as keywords for search capability. Go to the site(outinindy.com) and check it out.
420 posted on 05/02/2003 9:02:31 PM PDT by redangus
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