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"Even more posts on homosexuality...i'm curious as to why?"
Catholic Family Association of America/ Free Republic ^ | 5/1/03 | Dr. Brian Kopp, Vice President, Catholic Family Association of America

Posted on 05/01/2003 2:41:23 PM PDT by Polycarp

Even more posts on homosexuality...i'm curious as to why? (Click link for background.)

--Dr. Brian Kopp
Vice President, Catholic Family Association of America

5/1/03

A friend of mine is sitting in jail right now, having lived a life of severely self destructive behavior for many years. His current incarceration is for DUI.

From the time he was 13 to 15, he had a steady girlfriend, and was a quiet, well adjusted, normal kid.

At age 15 he was sexually molested by three male homosexuals, and in the process was introduced to drugs (need those whip its to open up a virginal anal sphincter, you know) and heavy alcohol abuse. He has lived a self destructive homosexual lifestyle ever since, a lifestyle induced by molestation and coerced drug and alcohol use at an early age.

I'm personally helping arrange his counseling and legal representation in the lawsuit against his homosexual molestors.

His life has been destroyed by these homosexual predators, yet many here and elsewhere have the unmitigated gall to castigate those of us battling this homosexual juggernaut, especially in regards to the efforts of the GOP to court the homosexual vote.

This type of predatory sexual abuse of young teenage boys is typical chickenhawking homosexual behavior. I've seen it so many times its enough to make me vomit.

And I guarantee if any of them ever touches one of my boys, there will be no trial, only a burial.

Furthermore, the credibility of my entire Church has been undermined by homosexuals who infiltrated its priesthood and systematically buggered its teenage altar boys for years.

And the same types who would criticize the Church for this buggering, also criticize the Church for being so "intolerant" of the homosexual agenda.

This chickenhawking is an integral part of the homosexual subculture, and tacitly and explicitly accepted by the entire movement. Thus the call for lowering the age of consent for homosexual sex across the board by the homo movement.

The homosexual juggernaut presents a clear and present danger to this Republic and the institution of the family upon which all decent societies are built.

The homosexual juggernaut presents a clear and present danger to our children, as chickenhawking is an integral part of its culture. Homosexuals do not reproduce. They are not "born that way." But they do recruit. They are actively trying to recruit your children and mine.

The homosexual juggernaut presents a clear and present danger to our health system.

Mankind has spent several millenia developing effective and sanitary methods of disposing human waste.

Mankind knows that human waste is the source of deadly diseases.

Mankind knows that highly promiscuous sexual behavior of any kind brings with it high morbidity and mortality. Homosexual behavior is inherently promiscuous, as every single sociological study on the subject has repeatedly proven.

Male homosexual behavior is essentially desirous of methods to literally and figuratively swim upstream to the sources of that human waste, with as many different partners as humanly possible.

Therefore, homosexual behavior is deadly and definitely decreases the homosexual's life expectancy, and the visceral repulsion it engenders is a natural, wholesome, and common sense response.

Public health records demonstrate that homosexuals, representing 2 percent of America's population, suffer vastly disproportionate percentages of several of America's most serious STDs, with incidences among homosexuals of diseases like gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis A and B, cytomegalovirus, shigellosis, giardiasis, amoebic bowel disease and herpes far exceeding their presence in the general population. These are due to common homosexual practices that include fellatio, anilingus, digital stimulation of the rectum and ingestion of urine and feces.

An exhaustive study in The New England Journal of Medicine, medical literature's only study reporting on homosexuals who kept sexual "diaries," indicated the average homosexual ingests the fecal material of 23 different men each year. The same study indicated the number of annual sexual partners averaged nearly 100. Homosexuals averaged, per year, fellating 106 different men and swallowing 50 of their seminal ejaculations, and 72 penile penetrations of the anus. (Corey, L, and Holmes, K.K., "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men," New England Journal of Medicine, 1980, vol 302: 435-438; as quoted in "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).

A study by McKusick, et al., of 655 San Francisco homosexuals reported that only 24 percent of the sample claimed to have been "monogamous" during the past year, and of this 24 percent, 5 percent drank urine, 7 percent engag-ed in sex involving insertion of a fist in their rectums, 33 percent ingested feces, 53 percent swallowed semen and 59 percent received semen in their rectums in the month just previous to the survey ("AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported by Homosexual Men in San Francisco," American Journal of Public Health, December 1985, 75: 493-496; quoted in "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).

This is my answer to the question, "Even more posts on homosexuality...i'm curious as to why"

As long as this homosexual juggernaut looms over us, pro-family and all men of good will, desirous of defending and spreading the Culture of Life, will engage the battle and fight this integral and insidious piece of the Culture of Death.


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To: MrLeRoy
"You go to and find me evidence from gay culture..from gay communities, web sites and organizations and document your claim that sex with minors is an integral part of the gay community.

The fact is you can't..because you are wrong."
281 posted on 05/02/2003 10:32:02 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: Darksheare
Those aren't my words.
282 posted on 05/02/2003 10:32:52 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Darksheare
And those words don't say that "chickenhawking" doesn't occur.
283 posted on 05/02/2003 10:33:47 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: MrLeRoy
Nitpicky, nitpicky.
You said that you wanted documented proof.
You were responding that way DIRECTLY to the chickenhawking comment.
So YES, you DID say it doesn't happen.

Read it again.
That IS what you said.
284 posted on 05/02/2003 10:34:58 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: MrLeRoy
And YES, the gay community DOES recruit among youngsters.
So it IS an integral part of the 'community'.
285 posted on 05/02/2003 10:36:54 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: Darksheare
So YES, you DID say it doesn't happen.

Read it again.
That IS what you said.

No, I asked for proof that it was "an integral part of homosexual culture."

286 posted on 05/02/2003 10:40:40 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Darksheare
the gay community DOES recruit among youngsters.

So it IS an integral part of the 'community'.

Non sequitur---not everything that happens in a community is integral to that community. You may as well argue that "the priestly community DOES have sex with minors. So it IS an integral part of the 'community'."

287 posted on 05/02/2003 10:42:37 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: MrLeRoy
You also tried to say that they aren't your words.
Tell that to post #277.
They ARE your words.
And yes, that IS what you said.
The proof is in the actions of the community itself.
As far as websites go, look at NAMBLA.
288 posted on 05/02/2003 10:43:43 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: MrLeRoy
You are such a specious thinker, aren't you.
You're trying to squirm this way and that.
"Those aren't my words." (It wasn't me! B*tch set me up!)
"I didn't say that!" (Is it on tape?)
Stop squirming and actually HONESTLY debate.
The sodomite priests are GAYS who infiltrate the layity.

How about THAT one?
289 posted on 05/02/2003 10:46:00 AM PDT by Darksheare (Nox aeternus en pax.)
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To: Darksheare
You also tried to say that they aren't your words.
Tell that to post #277.
They ARE your words.

No, I was quoting the post I was replying to.

The proof is in the actions of the community itself.

Not everything that happens in a community is integral to that community. You may as well argue that "the priestly community DOES have sex with minors. So it IS an integral part of the 'community'."

As far as websites go, look at NAMBLA.

Irrelevant unless you can show that NAMBLA is integral to the homosexual community.

290 posted on 05/02/2003 10:47:48 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Darksheare
"Those aren't my words." (It wasn't me! B*tch set me up!)
"I didn't say that!" (Is it on tape?)
Stop squirming and actually HONESTLY debate.

See post #290. Now wipe the egg off your face.

The sodomite priests are GAYS who infiltrate the layity.

How about THAT one?

I agree.

291 posted on 05/02/2003 10:49:23 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: MrLeRoy
Trace: "If you can prove [...] that pro-gay groups have actively campaigned for lowering the age of consent, please show your cards."

Can you provide evidence for your claim?

Its all here for anyone willing to wade through the voluminous evidence.

Did you read any of my posts to Jorge?!?

I've already answered ALL your most recent posts to me in those posts to him.

292 posted on 05/02/2003 11:08:53 AM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: MrLeRoy
This "evidence" is utterly irrelevant to your original claim.

BS. I posted many excerpts of homosexual publications, activists, etc., as well as analysis of same, along with statistics that irrefutably back up my position. Read the posts. I've proven my point to any reasonable person's satisfaction. I don't care if you personally reject these TRUTHS. The readers here can see who is engaged in spin.

Remember:

Homosexual predation of young male teenagers is rampant and culturally accepted in the homosexual movement, and it is irrefutably the ROOT CAUSE of the current crisis in the Roman Catholic Church.

Its no longer about just letting two consenting adults do whatever they want in the "privacy" of their own bedroom.

Theirs is an all out, full court press to stigmatize ANYONE who rejects the notion that homosexual behavior is intrinsically disordered, and to tear down ANY remaining legal constraints against their behavior, including predation of young teenagers.

Always remember the words of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg:

As an attorney for the ACLU Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg co-authored a report recommending that the age of consent for sexual acts be lowered to 12 years of age ("Sex Bias in the U.S. Code," Report for the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, April 1977, p. 102).

The paragraph reads as follows: "Eliminate the phrase "carnal knowledge of any female, not his wife, who has not attained the age of 16 years" and substitute a federal, sex-neutral definition of the offense.... A person is guilty of an offense if he engages in a sexual act with another person.... [and] the other person is, in fact, less than 12 years old..)"

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294 posted on 05/02/2003 11:16:58 AM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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To: breakem
LOL, you failed to answer the question at hand. Why is incest, a consensual act between adults, abhorent to you? Being abhorent, it must also be immoral to you. That's what legislators do dude, the legislate morality. There are no laws made which don't have moral componenets because otherwise there would be no laws.

I'm well aware that community standards are abhorent to you and that if you were King you would forbid the passing of any law regarding same.

I, on the other hand would, like the founders and Constitution give those people the freedom to live how they choose.

You're a closet fascist breakem. It's an affliction that strikes libertines and leftists and the sad part is, they don't even know it.

295 posted on 05/02/2003 11:17:19 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Polycarp
Chickenhawking is an integral and accepted part of homosexual culture.

You go to and find me evidence from gay culture..from gay communities, web sites and organizations and document your claim that sex with minors is an integral part of the gay community.

The fact is you can't..because you are wrong.

homosexual acts were involved in 25% to 40% of the cases of child molestation recorded in the scientific and forensic literature

This "evidence" is utterly irrelevant to your original claim.

BS.

No, plain fact. Shame you don't have the wit to see it.

296 posted on 05/02/2003 11:22:39 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Jorge
You answered nothing. Let's try again.

Would you advocate legislation prohibiting consensual private acts between adults?

Would those acts include or exclude the following: incest, sodomy, polygamy, adultery and perhaps the odd wife beater or two whose wives like it.

Keep in mind Jorge that these all have certain elements in common. One is consensual, two is adult, three is private.

297 posted on 05/02/2003 11:23:51 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Polycarp
but the idea that "chickenhawking" is a prominent part of the general homosexual population is a ridiculous claim.

Do a little more research. Even mainstream homosexual advocates admit it.

Not a single one of your bullet points proves that "chickenhawking" is a prominent part of the general homosexual population.

298 posted on 05/02/2003 11:27:39 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Polycarp
Did you read any of my posts to Jorge?!?

The first one I found (#71) was bereft of logic, as I indicate in post #298. Give me specific post numbers if you like, but I won't bother searching on my own for any more.

299 posted on 05/02/2003 11:30:32 AM PDT by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: MrLeRoy; Jorge
You go to and find me evidence from gay culture..from gay communities, web sites and organizations and document your claim that sex with minors is an integral part of the gay community.

The fact is you can't..because you are wrong. homosexual acts were involved in 25% to 40% of the cases of child molestation recorded in the scientific and forensic literature. This "evidence" is utterly irrelevant to your original claim.

Your reading comprehension and retension skills are woefully deficient. I'll help you with a little review of excerpts from my recent posts:

1)The Gay Report (Summit Books, 1979, p. 275), a survey of homosexual attitudes and behavior by Jay and Young, two homosexual researchers, revealed that 73% of homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 years of age or younger. [otherwise known as...chickenhawking!]

2)>In their comparison study of The Advocate (mainstream homo publication!)...49% "Gay " male biographies (n=166 ) reporting sex with boys, 41% "Gay " travel in foreign countries (n=139 ) rating laws on sex with boys.

3)In 1987, The Journal of Homosexuality "the scholarly organ of the gay rights movement " published "Pedophilia and the Gay Movement." (29) Author Theo Sandfort detailed homosexual efforts to end "oppression towards pedophilia." In 1980 the largest Dutch gay organization (the COC) "adopted the position that the liberation of pedophilia must be viewed as a gay issue... [and that] ages of consent should therefore be abolished...

4)In 1990 COC achieved a significant victory: lowering of the age of consent for homosexual sex in Holland to 12

5)The 1948 Kinsey survey found that 37% of the gays and 2% of the lesbians admitted to sexual relations with under-17-yr-olds, and 28% of the gays and 1% of the lesbians admitted to sexual relations with under-16-yr-olds while they themselves were aged 18 or older. (18)

6)In 1970 the Kinsey Institute interviewed 565 white gays in San Francisco: 25% of them admitted to having had sex with boys aged 16 or younger while they themselves were at least 21. (19)

7)In The Gay Report, 23% of the gays and 6% of the lesbians admitted to sexual interaction with youth less than 16 years of age. (20)

8)The Journal of Homosexuality recently published a special double-issue entitled, "Male Intergenerational Intimacy," containing many articles portraying sex between men and minor boys as loving relationships. One article said parents should look upon the pedophile who loves their son "not as a rival or competitor, not as a theft of their property, but as a partner in the boy's upbringing, someone to be welcomed into their home."

9)In 1995 the homosexual magazine "Guide" said, "We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual" and "deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose. …" The article went on to say: "Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children's sexuality … we must do it for the children's sake."

10)Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group, wrote in his book, "Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist": "In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it."

11)In a study of advertisements in the influential homosexual newspaper, The Advocate, Reisman found ads for a "Penetrable Boy Doll … available in three provocative positions. She also found that the number of erotic boy images in each issue of The Advocate averaged 14.

12) Homosexuality 'youth-oriented'? "Research on the homosexual lifestyle confirms it is almost exclusively a youth-oriented culture," Baldwin wrote. "Very few gays exhibit preference for older men."

13)"Some admit to focus on teenage boys," he said, "some on prepubescent boys, and many cross over between categories."

14)According to the study, "Archives of Sexual Behavior," some 86 percent of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual. Also, the study found, the number of teenage male prostitutes who identify as homosexuals has risen from 10 percent to 60 percent in the past 15 years.

When asked what he thought about critics who attempt to debunk his research, Baldwin said the results speak for themselves. "For them to say this theory is false is to call many of the homosexual movement's leaders liars," he said. "Most of my evidence comes right from the gay community." "I managed to find enough evidence that my thesis – child molestation is an integral part of the homosexual movement – is a valid thesis," Baldwin told WorldNetDaily.

300 posted on 05/02/2003 11:37:17 AM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist.")
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