So all those folks in the Federal Building in Oklahoma City gave their lives for their country too? "Give," to me implies some form of voluntary consent.
It's sooooo nice of you to suggest the "I'm warped."
I see you are from Maryland. I guess you think it was okay for Lincoln to order the arrest the legislators of your State in order to prevent them from voting to secede.
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Tell me what would have happened if he didn't "order the arrest of the legislators". Then tell me how that would have effected the war and it's conclusion. Then tell me how the U.S.A. would look right now had Lincoln not ordered "the arrest of the (Maryland) legislators". We all know how things turned out with Lincoln doing the things he did, now you tell me how everything would have worked out had Lincoln done ANYTHING different.