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The Five Failed Predictions of Creationism
Crevo thread: Professor Dumped Over Evolution Beliefs ^ | 24 March 2003 | PatrickHenry

Posted on 04/01/2003 8:12:41 AM PST by PatrickHenry

This vanity thread was inspired by a provocative question that Junior directed to a creationist: "Biblical prophesies notwithstanding, what biological predictions does creationism make?" The creationist didn't respond, but I did, as follows:

I can think of a few creationist predictions. Because -- according to creationism -- all species were specially created at virtually the same time, and did not gradually evolve from earlier forms:

1. There should be no transitional species.
2. There are most certainly no pre-human species.
3. There should be no evidence, whether in fossils or DNA, showing the chronological evolution of life.
4. There must surely be at least one species, and probably several, having no genetic similarities with any other life on earth.
5. The fossil record must show all kinds of species (such as dinosaurs and humans) living together at the same time.
I shall call these The Five Failed Predictions of Creationism.

In fairness to the creationists, although the first three have already been disproved (for example: #1 -- Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ, #2 -- Human Ancestors, more #2 -- Comparison of all skulls, #3 -- Tree of Life Project ), the last two (#4 and #5) can't yet be considered to be totally failed predictions. All we can do is point out that the predicted evidence has not yet been discovered. Given the lack of actual research being conducted by creationists, it is unlikely to be discovered.


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KEYWORDS: creationism; crevolist; darwin; evolution
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To: PatrickHenry
Consider how he first invents his own fantasy version of evolution

I did not invent evolution. In fact, I am the one who constantly has to post what the theory of evolution is because evolutionists are too dishonest to state plainly what their theory is. One has to wonder how the theory of evolution can be a scientific fact when no one is willing to state exactly what the theory is. Evolutionists like to do the gobledygook dance and claim a different thing in each different situation. It is not science, it is an ideology and your constant insults more than prove it. If it were science and you were a scientist you would be able to back up your theory with facts instead of insults.

121 posted on 04/14/2003 6:37:08 PM PDT by gore3000 (Evolution is whatever lie you want it to be.)
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To: PatrickHenry
troll alert placemarker
122 posted on 04/14/2003 6:38:39 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: gore3000
You're one of the most narrow-minded morons to ever grace these threads (and that's quite an achievement). One can view the account in Genesis as an allegory of God's relationship with man without taking it as a literal account. But then again, your mind isn't quite capable of encompassing such a concept.
123 posted on 04/14/2003 6:39:40 PM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: postmodernism_kills
Jesus spoke of Adam and Eve as historical persons, the first made humans by God. If Genesis is not historically accurate, then Jesus was confused, and certainly could not be Divine.

Indeed, the Bible is a unit, it is not a smorgasboard from which one can take what one likes. Of course that is part of the reason why evolutionists cannot be Christians - they are very self-centered and will take only what pleases them and their theory, never mind the facts.

124 posted on 04/14/2003 6:42:17 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
Don't look now, but the Iraqi Minisiter of Dis-Information, "Baghdad Bob," has just arrived on your thread.

You can recognize his posts by the "English-is-my-second-language" sentence structure and grammar, the flagrant misrepresentations of reality, and the characteristic blue font....

125 posted on 04/14/2003 6:43:56 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: Junior
This does not mean the fairy tale had any corporal validity, and the same could be said of Genesis.

Hmm, Genesis is a fairy tale and Christ's teachings are fairly tales according to you.

... and you dare claim yourself as an example of Christianity and evolution being able to coexist? You must think everyone is an idiot. Hate to tell you, they are not. They are much smarter than the guy who thinks everyone else is an idiot.

126 posted on 04/14/2003 6:45:20 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: m1-lightning
Darwin only showed similarities between species of the past.

And even then, just a few species which he very selectively picked. He knew of the platypus, but did not discuss it because it would completely disprove his theory. He knew of the bat's sonar, but he did not talk about that. He knew of butterflies and frogs going through a second incarnation, but he did not discuss that either as it was contrary from his theory.

127 posted on 04/14/2003 6:51:32 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Once again, you fail to understand nuance in the written word. I never said Genesis was a fairy tale. As a matter of fact, you'd be hard pressed to find wherein I called Genesis a fairy tale. But the truth does not matter to you. It never has. The only thing that matters is what you can twist to fit your own distorted world view. You are truly a pathetic individual. I am the last person who would actually engage you in any sort of conversation, but that will change shortly. You are again being relegated to virtual ignore. You can continue to claim that you are king of the mountain, but everyone who reads your posts knows you're still at the bottom of the hill.
128 posted on 04/14/2003 6:51:53 PM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: Junior
Rationally, evolution does a far better job at explaining the evidence than creationism does.

As I said before, I will say it again, you hold Darwin above Christ.

No one has seen a single species transform itself. You cannot give any facts supporting evolution and the transformation of species into more complex creatures. All you can give as proof for your atheistic theory are the usual:

INSULTS


DOUBLETALK


LIES



129 posted on 04/14/2003 6:54:51 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Junior
Evolution does not say life evolved from rocks.

Then if God created life, how come you evolutionists strongly deny that He created man and are constantly trying to prove (unsuccessfully I might add) that He did not create man? Answer that one, but of course you will not, you will just hurl more insults as usual.

130 posted on 04/14/2003 6:57:53 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: All
Everyone probably needs this blue barf bag right about now:


131 posted on 04/15/2003 4:01:49 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Everyone probably needs this blue barf bag right about now:

So what is it like to spend your life insulting people Patrick?

132 posted on 04/15/2003 5:06:04 AM PDT by gore3000
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So what is it like to spend your life insulting people Patrick?
132 posted on 04/15/2003 8:06 AM EDT by gore3000
Hee hee. That from someone who, in the now-pulled but not forgotten ACLU thread, posted the infamous #1360, addressed to me, on 19 Sep 2002:
[Note to moderator: I'm not insulting anyone. This is a copy of someone's insult to me.]
You execrable piece of lying garbage. Since you got back at around post#300 you have turned this thread from a civilized discussion into an avalanche of slime. You already got the post pulled away from the front to where no one will see it which was YOUR purpose.

It was your purpose because you and your friends are a bunch of lame know-nothing liars who can only insult and try to drive away people from the threads so you will have no opposition. Like the real Taliban, the evo Taliban are a bunch of stupid thugs who try to silence all opponents and destroy all those who dare say that the emperor of evolution has no clothes.

You keep thinking that by your despicable tactics you can silence the truth, but all you are doing is wasting your time. As the Communists, who had far more control than your little bunch of thugs showed, no matter how hard you try, you cannot silence the truth. The truth is so powerful that a very small band of men, eleven in fact, armed with nothing but the words of Christ conquered the unconquerable Roman Empire and destroyed atheism and paganism in the civilized world. You will not succeed because our Leader is infinitely more powerful than the maggot infested carcass of your hero - the atheist, racist, inciter of mass murder Charles Darwin.


133 posted on 04/15/2003 6:43:10 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I wonder if the AntiPope is a village idiot in real life, too.
134 posted on 04/15/2003 8:52:26 AM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: balrog666
To: PatrickHenry

Consider how he first invents his own fantasy version of evolution

I did not invent evolution. In fact, I am the one who constantly has to post what the theory of evolution is because evolutionists are too dishonest to state plainly what their theory is. One has to wonder how the theory of evolution can be a scientific fact when no one is willing to state exactly what the theory is. Evolutionists like to do the gobledygook dance and claim a different thing in each different situation. It is not science, it is an ideology and your constant insults more than prove it. If it were science and you were a scientist you would be able to back up your theory with facts instead of insults.


121 posted on 04/14/2003 6:37 PM PDT by gore3000 (Evolution is whatever lie you want it to be.)


Evolution is whatever lie you want it to be.

135 posted on 04/15/2003 12:31:41 PM PDT by f.Christian (( who you gonna call ... 1 800 orc // evo bstr ))
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To: PatrickHenry
"Bolshevik monopoly" (( aclu // nea )) ...

tyranny (( taliban // jihad )) ---

brainwashing (( conservatism // Truth )) ...

indoctrination (( liberalism // atheism // evolution // communism )) !

Libertarian schlock ... anarchy --- evolution !
136 posted on 04/15/2003 12:52:41 PM PDT by f.Christian (( who you gonna call ... 1 800 orc // evo bstr ))
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To: PatrickHenry
It's "The Dead Zone" here lately!
137 posted on 04/16/2003 6:37:54 AM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: balrog666
Yes. That's because (I'd like to think) my opening essay is so powerful that no creationist of any talent (hee hee) will dare to come near this thread.
138 posted on 04/16/2003 6:49:04 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Of course, it might have something to do with all the blue spew too.
139 posted on 04/16/2003 10:43:07 AM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: Junior
Of course, it might have something to do with all the blue spew too.

Not to mention the "Thorazine-free Zone" in which certain posters appear to be operating.

140 posted on 04/16/2003 2:42:36 PM PDT by longshadow
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