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I just got called for Jury duty for the first time (want info on Jury Nullification) - VANITY

Posted on 03/12/2003 7:27:40 AM PST by The FRugitive

I just got called for jury duty for the first time.

I'm curious about jury nullification in case I get picked and get a consensual "criminal" case (tax evasion, drug posession, gun law violation, etc.). What would I need to know?

This could be my chance to stick it to the man. ;)

(Of course if I were to get a case of force or fraud I would follow the standing law.)


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To: Roscoe
Like I said, it was a very narrow decision, not the broad brush you tried to paint.

Bzzzzzzzt. Try again.

381 posted on 03/13/2003 9:08:06 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: tpaine
You're free to try to produce a source demonstrating the Barron was wrong. You don't have to always beg every question.
382 posted on 03/13/2003 9:09:37 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: savedbygrace
Like I said, it was a very narrow decision

Jurors who would nullify the law had no right to be on the jury.

383 posted on 03/13/2003 9:11:19 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
You're free to try to produce a source demonstrating the Barron was wrong.
-roscoe-

Again, - the source is the Constitution itself. - The 14th was ratified to settle the question raised by Barron.
Case closed.
384 posted on 03/13/2003 9:19:39 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Roscoe
Roscoe, you're stuck in one groove and skipping badly.

Since you have nothing else to offer in defense of your theory, buh bye.

385 posted on 03/13/2003 9:22:02 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Roscoe
Jurors who would nullify the law had no right to be on the jury.
-roscoe- totally confused again

Idiotic reasoning.
- How could a juror know that s/he would nullify before hearing the facts & law specific to the case?

Go back to 'logic' school roscoe.
386 posted on 03/13/2003 9:27:59 AM PST by tpaine
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To: savedbygrace
Backwards. The decision was against your position so you made a vague and irrelevant claim that the decision was "narrow".

Your dodge failed.

387 posted on 03/13/2003 9:36:04 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: tpaine
How could a juror know that s/he would nullify before hearing the facts & law specific to the case?

The potential jurors were asked about their ability to apply a capital punishment law. Try to keep up.

388 posted on 03/13/2003 9:40:15 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: tpaine
Again, - the source is the Constitution itself.

False, question beggar.

"The first amendment to the Constitution prohibits Congress from abridging 'the right of the people to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.' This, like the other amendments proposed and adopted at the same time, was not intended to limit the powers of the State governments in respect to their own citizens, but to operate upon the National government alone." -- U.S. v. Cruickshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)

389 posted on 03/13/2003 9:50:56 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Admit it, you didn't read the decision, did you? If you had, you wouldn't have made such an uninformed comment.
390 posted on 03/13/2003 10:05:46 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace
Is there a point to your spinning? If you think the decision supports your position, try to explain why.
391 posted on 03/13/2003 10:09:12 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Another erroneous states 'rights' opinion, written in the KKK era. It is not the law. - And,- it is directly contradicted by the Preamble to the BOR's.

Our constitution is the "law of the land". - Case closed.
392 posted on 03/13/2003 10:14:48 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Another erroneous states 'rights' opinion

No cite to or quote from any decision or authority to the contrary, naturally. Begging the question, always.

393 posted on 03/13/2003 10:17:23 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: savedbygrace
While we're waiting:

"This line of cases establishes the general proposition that a juror may not be challenged for cause based on his views about capital punishment unless those views would prevent or substantially impair the performance of his duties as a juror in accordance with his instructions and his oath. The State may insist however, that jurors will consider and decide the facts impartially and conscientiously apply the law as charged by the court." -- Adams v. Texas, 448 U.S. 38 (1980)

394 posted on 03/13/2003 10:18:48 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Read the decision and explain how it supports your broad brush claim. Remember, this was YOUR source, not mine. If you can't find the part of the USSC decision that supports your decision, then just say so.

Dodging is YOUR thing, Roscoe, not mine.

395 posted on 03/13/2003 10:22:03 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Roscoe
Jurors who would nullify the law had no right to be on the jury.
-roscoe- totally confused again

How could a juror know that s/he would nullify before hearing the facts & law specific to the case?
-tpaine-


The potential jurors were asked about their ability to apply a capital punishment law. Try to keep up.
-roscoe- spins again

Immaterial to ~our~ issue. You can answer yes to capital punishment, and still nullify based on the facts & law of the case, as presented.
-- Try to show some logic, roscoe.
396 posted on 03/13/2003 10:25:04 AM PST by tpaine
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To: savedbygrace
"This line of cases establishes the general proposition that a juror may not be challenged for cause based on his views about capital punishment unless those views would prevent or substantially impair the performance of his duties as a juror in accordance with his instructions and his oath. The State may insist however, that jurors will consider and decide the facts impartially and conscientiously apply the law as charged by the court." -- Adams v. Texas, 448 U.S. 38 (1980)

397 posted on 03/13/2003 10:35:21 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Another erroneous states 'rights' opinion, written in the KKK era. It is not the law. - And,- it is directly contradicted by the Preamble to the BOR's.
Our constitution is the "law of the land". - Case closed.
392 tpaine

No cite to or quote from any decision or authority to the contrary, naturally.
393 -roscoe- Begging the question, always.


The 'authority' of the Preamble was cited, & the constitution quoted, just above.

[You really are becoming feeble minded roscoe. Or demented.]
398 posted on 03/13/2003 10:35:52 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Potential jurors who expressed an unwillingness during voir dire to follow the law could be excluded from service. They had no "right" to be on the jury.
399 posted on 03/13/2003 10:39:01 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Nitpicking
400 posted on 03/13/2003 10:40:23 AM PST by tpaine
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