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2 lawmakers spurn Muslim's prayer - Republicans step off House floor
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^
| March 4, 2003
| ANGELA GALLOWAY
Posted on 03/04/2003 2:34:57 AM PST by sarcasm
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posted on
03/04/2003 2:34:57 AM PST
by
sarcasm
To: sarcasm
bttt
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posted on
03/04/2003 2:37:53 AM PST
by
lainde
To: sarcasm
"My god is not Mohammed," McMahan added."Nor allah. (lower case intentional)
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posted on
03/04/2003 2:58:24 AM PST
by
knarf
(From dump trailer to skate board.)
To: sarcasm
In part, he said: "We open this session of House of Representatives in the name of Allah..... Ugh.
Every member of the legislature should have walked out.
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posted on
03/04/2003 3:09:30 AM PST
by
ppaul
To: sarcasm
If the representatives believed that allah is, in fact, the evil one and that Mohammed is his representative on earth, they were correct to walk out. Anyone with those beliefs would be worshipping Satan. While it may not be mainstream thinking about Islam in America, enough people believe this to suggest that even a couple of legislators might. I might have walked out also.
Send 'em an e-mail or call and say "Thanks!"
Lois McMahan, Phone: (360) 786-7802, e-mail: mcmahan_lo@leg.wa.gov Cary Condotta, Phone: (360) 786-7954, e-mail: condotta_ca@leg.wa.gov
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posted on
03/04/2003 3:18:27 AM PST
by
ppaul
To: sarcasm
I don't agree with the other posters so far. I don't have a problem with the prayer as long as it's delivered in English.
"It makes me embarrassed to know that some of our legislators can't even treat someone with that common respect,"
I agree with this legislator. I just wish they would remember this when this issue is opening prayers at schools and at basketball games.
A little quiet respect and tolerance is all that's asked in both situations.
To: libertylover
Washington State is disgusting ... but not as disgusting as the "Islamic Services at XXXX" sign I see in front of the base chapel. Oh brother.
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posted on
03/04/2003 3:27:46 AM PST
by
Check6
To: CyberCowboy777; Libertina; Eala; Publius; DennisR; MarMema; Judai; BADROTOFINGER; JDoutrider; ...
Ping your ping lists!
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posted on
03/04/2003 3:43:42 AM PST
by
ppaul
To: sarcasm
In part, he said: "We open this session of House of Representatives in the name of Allah the one God Abraham, God of Moses, God of Jesus, and God of Mohammed, peace be upon them all. . . . We ask Allah or God to bless the state of Washington so it may continue to prosper and become a symbol of peace and tranquility for people of all ethnic and religious backgrounds. We pray that Allah may guide this House in making good decisions for the people of Washington. It's not "and," it's "or," because we don't worship the same "god." Come on, buddy, which is it? A Freudian slip on the cleric's part, since he sincerely believes, or wants us to believe that the two are the same, though they are not. I just find it interesting that he felt the need to insert the arabic word "Allah" in an otherwise English prayer when Muslims have been trying all along to assert that the English "God" is the same as the Arabic word "Allah." Why not be consistent and use the word Allah exclusively in Arabic Muslim prayers, or use the word "god" exclusively in English Muslim prayers?
There are no circumstances where I would use the term "Allah" in prayer, and as far as I know I've never heard a Muslim use the term "Yahweh," or even "Father," so common in Christianity.
Why didn't he say this instead:
"We open this session of House of Representatives in the name of God the one God Abraham, God of Moses, God of Jesus, and God of Mohammed, peace be upon them all. . . . We ask God to bless the state of Washington so it may continue to prosper and become a symbol of peace and tranquility for people of all ethnic and religious backgrounds. We pray that God may guide this House in making good decisions for the people of Washington. "
Well, he didn't say that because it wouldn't push along the agenda.
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posted on
03/04/2003 3:52:09 AM PST
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: sarcasm
>"The Holy Quran says that (one should) always respond to bad action with good and those who used to be enemies become friends."
Would that be the same Holy Quran which says 'kill them where they are found?'
To: sarcasm
Disgusting.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:13:49 AM PST
by
Illbay
To: ppaul
If a Rabbi had opened it in the name of Eloi would you have walked out?
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:14:38 AM PST
by
Illbay
To: sarcasm
At least David Koresh had an inkling of who the Savior was, and we roasted him. And now we are allowing Islamic prayers filled with lies, in our government buildings. What's next, human sacrifice, and then dip their hair in the blood for further inspiration from hell. Lord have mercy on these idiots for equating a demonic myth like Allah with the Son of God Jesus Christ.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:15:17 AM PST
by
Russell Scott
((Saddam, beware the Ides of March))
To: ppaul
Thanks. I sent 'em an email telling them that they are a disgrace to the Republican party and their constituents, and ought to resign in disgrace.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:15:23 AM PST
by
Illbay
To: Check6
Oh yeah. I mean, who the h*ll needs that First Amendment garbage, anyway?
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:16:14 AM PST
by
Illbay
To: piasa
What a doofus you are.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:16:41 AM PST
by
Illbay
To: sarcasm
Joban said the walkout was not hurtful, but ignorant.Now that's a statement sure to promote understanding between religions.
sheesh - he would have had a canary if a Christian had said that about him!
I would not have walked out, nor would I have acknowledged the prayer by bowing my head. I would have stood quietly until it was over, and then continued on with business.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:22:22 AM PST
by
mombonn
To: ppaul
Here's my email to them:
I find your actions in response to the Muslim clerics prayer to be disgusting, and I think you ought to resign for the sake of the party and your constituents. No one is asking you to adopt the precepts of Islam, but you ought to show the common decency that is incumbent upon those who have sworn to uphold the Constitution.
In the Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia, no other religion than Islam is officially sanctioned or permitted. A public prayer by a Christian would not be tolerated. All you are saying is, you want for US to be the opposite face of that same coin.
We are far, far superior to such benighted countries as those. Or at least, we ought to be except for a handful of disgraceful bigots like yourselves. I am so ashamed.
Please resign for the good of the party.
Thanks for posting these email addresses. I hope more FReepers will register their appreciation for the Constitution and tell these idiots what's what.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:23:01 AM PST
by
Illbay
To: mombonn
I would have stood quietly until it was over, and then continued on with business. That's because you have a shred of common decency. Too bad that couldn't be said of these nitwits.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:24:05 AM PST
by
Illbay
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