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To: Fester Chugabrew
Unless evolutionists want to be so dumb as to say creationism does not exist, they ought to be willing to give it equal time in the classroom.

As has been shown, we "dumb evolutionists" can't prove something doesn't exist, but I can state that in all liklihood, creationism doesn't exist. But lets pretend your idea takes hold and schools are required to teach creationism... Aside from the obvious (which has been asked of you several times) question of which creation myth to teach, what the hell would you even teach? I mean, "Christian God created everything" leaves lots of classroom time. Even after all the other myths are put forth, I'd figure the kids would still have 179.5 days to study science. (Leaving out the little tidbit about religion being taught in public schools, etc).
2,494 posted on 01/03/2003 10:28:27 AM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke
"Aside from the obvious (which has been asked of you several times) question of which creation myth to teach, what the hell would you even teach?"

Good question. If I were well versed in a particular science, such as biology or chemistry, and were a teacher in the public schools, I would first see to it that any textbook used in my class were selected on the basis of its acceptance of open-inquiry. Textbooks that proclaim "billions of years ago yadayadayada" without interjecting qualifiers are misleading, and would either be discarded from consideration or edited, or pointed out as such.

As the given discipline runs its course making use of scientific methods, I might introduce questions that allow the student to explain their observations in both naturalist and creationist terms, or whichever they might prefer. If a student would happen to launch into a sermon exhorting me to repent of my beer drinking ways, I would simply have to remaind that student that God created beer, too, and carry one with the discipline the class is intened to explore.

As far as I can see, evolutionists are on solid ground in maintaining that facts and observations should be the main fare in science classes. At the same time, they should be willing to allow what they call "facts and observations" to be challenged by other ways of explaining them. I mean, when even our best scientists are still uncertain of how to fully comprehend such ubiquities as light, energy, and time, it does little good to snag on creationism as if it will jump out of the bushes and strangle objective realties.

It would serve no purpose to continually launch into the merits or lack thereof of either creationist (why belabor the obvious?) or evolutionist assumptions. I doubt there are many science teachers who hold the evolutionist view and continually bash their students over the head with it. It does no good to the learning process and does not change or advance the facts.

So, you're absolutely right. Science classes should not be made a platform for creationist sermonizing, any more than they should be made platforms for evolutionist atheistic tendencies.

2,513 posted on 01/03/2003 11:24:55 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: whattajoke
I can state that in all liklihood, creationism doesn't exist.

You can state that the moon is made of green cheese also, but that does not make it true.

2,775 posted on 01/04/2003 12:37:06 PM PST by gore3000
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