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To: Condorman
"How do you respond to the observation I made, that 'survival of the fittest' is curiously at odds with basic communist philosophy?"

I did not see where you mentioned this. I do not read these posts as thoroughly as I should, and going back I see some fine comments by donh, yourself, et. al. I tend grab at this and that word byte and slog along.

At any rate, I think the issue has more to do in the end with atheism. As you've said more than once, and even taught me, evolutionism takes many forms, with some maintaining a more radical theory than others. Although communism may reject "survival of the fittest" as a proper principle to apply in their system, it still elevates the state over God. Not unlike evolutionists insofar as they think they are entitled by law to have their point of view alone represented in public schools.

2,011 posted on 01/01/2003 6:49:53 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I think the issue has more to do in the end with atheism.

We're making progress. Evolution is all about survival of the fittest (actually it's called "natural selection"). Atheism is not part of evolution theory at all. But that's the hook upon which you now hang your claim of a "strong relationship" between evolution and communism. It ain't much to go on.

2,013 posted on 01/01/2003 6:57:12 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Thank you for the kind words. A cordial debate is an event too seldom seen around here.

Although communism may reject "survival of the fittest" as a proper principle to apply in their system, it still elevates the state over God. Not unlike evolutionists insofar as they think they are entitled by law to have their point of view alone represented in public schools.

Now we're back on public policy debate. As a private individual, you are absolutely free to worship whoever and however you choose. But government schools must not take preference to any one particular religious viewpoint. Both Creationism and Intelligent Design are religiously-based ideas, and do not meet the standards of scientific theory.

Personally, if I was a grade-school science teacher, I would take advantage of this controvery as an exercise for my students in identifying the characteristics of a good theory.

2,017 posted on 01/01/2003 7:08:39 PM PST by Condorman
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