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Evolution Disclaimer Supported
The Advocate (Baton Rouge) ^ | 12/11/02 | WILL SENTELL

Posted on 12/11/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by A2J

By WILL SENTELL

wsentell@theadvocate.com

Capitol news bureau

High school biology textbooks would include a disclaimer that evolution is only a theory under a change approved Tuesday by a committee of the state's top school board.

If the disclaimer wins final approval, it would apparently make Louisiana just the second state in the nation with such a provision. The other is Alabama, which is the model for the disclaimer backers want in Louisiana.

Alabama approved its policy six or seven years ago after extensive controversy that included questions over the religious overtones of the issue.

The change approved Tuesday requires Louisiana education officials to check on details for getting publishers to add the disclaimer to biology textbooks.

It won approval in the board's Student and School Standards/ Instruction Committee after a sometimes contentious session.

"I don't believe I evolved from some primate," said Jim Stafford, a board member from Monroe. Stafford said evolution should be offered as a theory, not fact.

Whether the proposal will win approval by the full state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education on Thursday is unclear.

Paul Pastorek of New Orleans, president of the board, said he will oppose the addition.

"I am not prepared to go back to the Dark Ages," Pastorek said.

"I don't think state boards should dictate editorial content of school textbooks," he said. "We shouldn't be involved with that."

Donna Contois of Metairie, chairwoman of the committee that approved the change, said afterward she could not say whether it will win approval by the full board.

The disclaimer under consideration says the theory of evolution "still leaves many unanswered questions about the origin of life.

"Study hard and keep an open mind," it says. "Someday you may contribute to the theories of how living things appeared on earth."

Backers say the addition would be inserted in the front of biology textbooks used by students in grades 9-12, possibly next fall.

The issue surfaced when a committee of the board prepared to approve dozens of textbooks used by both public and nonpublic schools. The list was recommended by a separate panel that reviews textbooks every seven years.

A handful of citizens, one armed with a copy of Charles Darwin's "Origin of the Species," complained that biology textbooks used now are one-sided in promoting evolution uncritically and are riddled with factual errors.

"If we give them all the facts to make up their mind, we have educated them," Darrell White of Baton Rouge said of students. "Otherwise we have indoctrinated them."

Darwin wrote that individuals with certain characteristics enjoy an edge over their peers and life forms developed gradually millions of years ago.

Backers bristled at suggestions that they favor the teaching of creationism, which says that life began about 6,000 years ago in a process described in the Bible's Book of Genesis.

White said he is the father of seven children, including a 10th-grader at a public high school in Baton Rouge.

He said he reviewed 21 science textbooks for use by middle and high school students. White called Darwin's book "racist and sexist" and said students are entitled to know more about controversy that swirls around the theory.

"If nothing else, put a disclaimer in the front of the textbooks," White said.

John Oller Jr., a professor at the University of Louisiana-Lafayette, also criticized the accuracy of science textbooks under review. Oller said he was appearing on behalf of the Louisiana Family Forum, a Christian lobbying group.

Oller said the state should force publishers to offer alternatives, correct mistakes in textbooks and fill in gaps in science teachings. "We are talking about major falsehoods that should be addressed," he said.

Linda Johnson of Plaquemine, a member of the board, said she supports the change. Johnson said the new message of evolution "will encourage students to go after the facts."


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To: exmarine
You posted a pathetic url from a god-hater's website which is blatantly dishonest in treatment of scriptures

Indeed, how dare he quote what's in the Bible? The nerve of some people.

6,481 posted on 02/07/2003 3:01:48 PM PST by donh
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To: exmarine
I got better things to do than waste my time on the likes of you.

I'll believe it when I see it.

6,482 posted on 02/07/2003 3:02:57 PM PST by donh
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To: exmarine
If context doesn't matter then anyone can interpret it any way they want and you are stuck in a relativistic time warp.

It is plainly obvious, to most everyone on this planet but you, that if context does matter, than your source of absolute morality is, in fact, a source of relative morality.

6,483 posted on 02/07/2003 3:05:05 PM PST by donh
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To: donh
You can't see a quanta with your faculties

What part of single quantum do you have difficulty understanding? The rod responds to --- measures -- a single quantum. That causes the wave equation to be solved(collapse). It is measured.

6,484 posted on 02/07/2003 3:06:37 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: exmarine
As I told js, Paul clearly instructs slaves and masters to love each other, and he instructs Philemon to love his slave as a brother. These are undeniable in their love content, yet you and your website say the NT supports or condones malicious antebellum-style slavery! bwahaahaha!

The vast majority of roman slaves worked the mines, or the galley's or the fields. Their life expectancy was minimal, and their abuse was continual and monumental. It doesn't require an advanced degree in history to know this. They had no soccur in the law, they had no "opportunities for advancement", they had no decent food, sleep or rest. A common punishment for misbehavior was to be crucified at at crossroads as a warning to other slaves. Guess how I know this, mr. Jesus-man. That's why they revolted from time to time. It doesn't take an advanced degree in history to know this. Hard as it may be for you to believe, quoting Paul's thoughts on this subject hardly gainsays this, nor does it gainsay the clear as day orders from God about how to treat slaves, regardless of what you called them.

6,485 posted on 02/07/2003 3:12:11 PM PST by donh
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To: AndrewC
What part of single quantum do you have difficulty understanding?

No part, because I have no reservations about using inductive reasoning. Your attempt to claim that because you can read an instrument, your visceral facilities were directly stimulated is noted.

I make the equivalent claim: that because I observed the morphological ordering of fossils, as laid out by paleontologists, my visceral facilities were directly stimulated.

6,486 posted on 02/07/2003 3:15:58 PM PST by donh
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To: donh
I make the equivalent claim: that because I observed the morphological ordering of fossils, as laid out by paleontologists, my visceral facilities were directly stimulated.

Yes, and Harvey is a big rabbit.

6,487 posted on 02/07/2003 3:19:39 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
Big rabbit placemarker.
6,488 posted on 02/07/2003 9:55:46 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: donh
I know AC doesn't want to hear this, but the "one photon" sensitivity is based on statistical analysis, not on Shroedenger's rod.
6,489 posted on 02/08/2003 1:41:58 PM PST by js1138
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To: Condorman
"Bring out yer dead!" Clang

"Bring out yer dead!" Clang

"Bring out yer dead!" Clang

"Bring out yer dead!" Clang

6,490 posted on 02/09/2003 12:37:14 PM PST by Condorman ("I'm not dead, yet. I think I'll go for a walk." --Dead Guy)
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To: exmarine
As I told js, Paul clearly instructs slaves and masters to love each other,

The prosecution can rest it's case on this statement alone. Your pathetic claim, even if we construct the best possible interpretation of it, is that God used to condone some form of slavery some degree less awful than as was the case in the anti-bellum South. --But doesn't now? And you claim this is a demonstration of absolute morality? Even for a Jesuit this would be a hard case to make with a straight face.

6,491 posted on 02/09/2003 4:22:52 PM PST by donh
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To: AndrewC
Yes, and Harvey is a big rabbit.

And Andrew is a big poo poo head.

6,492 posted on 02/09/2003 4:26:12 PM PST by donh
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To: donh
:^)
6,493 posted on 02/09/2003 6:09:36 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: js1138
I know AC doesn't want to hear this, but the "one photon" sensitivity is based on statistical analysis, not on Shroedenger's rod.

A compartment model of vertebrate phototransduction

Abstract

A compartment model has been developed to explain the different sensitivities and adaptation properties of vertebrate rods and cones. For the cones, the natural compartment is a single fold of the plasma membrane; for the rods, the size of the compartment had to be defined empirically. In this model, the number of compartments controls the amplitude of the single photon response; the size of the compartment sets the position of intensity response curve on the intensity axis. Using the Ergodicity theorem, the adaptation properties are predicted from the number of compartments and the decay time constant of the single photon response.

Introduction

rod outer segment I am a biophysicist currently interested in finding out why rods and cones in the vertebrate retina have different sensitivities to light and why their adaptation properties under non-bleaching light conditions are also so different when the biochemistry, well reviewed in [1], seems very similar in these two types of receptors.

As a starting point, I use the well known anatomical difference between the structure of the outer segment of these photoreceptors, and to illustrate this I use the beautiful illustrations from Alfieri, R. et al. [2] (permission requested).


Figure 1: Rod illustration showing
the stack of disks in a cylindrical shell.

cone outer segment The main difference being that, while the cone disks or folds hang out in space, the rod disks are internalized in a cylindrical shell.

Furthermore, a three dimensional study shows that the cone fold is connected to the ciliary part of the ultrastructure through an minute opening which spans less that 20 degrees of the circumference[3].


Figure 2: Cone illustration showing
the folds as being part of the plasma membrane.

The next consideration involves the existence of compartments in these structures which limit in volume the extent of the biochemical reactions following the capture of one photon. In the case of the cone, I will try to show that membranes limit the size of the compartment; when , for the rod, we are facing a "operational compartment", which I will define later. Two factors and one hypothesis are important for the following discussion:

Intensity-Response

exponential saturation curve The biochemistry underlying the phototransduction has been the focus of studies over the past fifteen years; the current view is well illustrated by a scheme of Nakatani. The idea that the outer segment is compartmentalized is not new. Back in 1981, in order to explain the shape of the intensity-response data curve, Lamb et al. [4] had developed the total occlusion model. This curve also called the "Exponential Saturation" curve can be used to fit experimental data and replace the "Michaelis-Menten" curve; its mathematical expression is : R/Rmax = 1 - Exp[-kI], where I is the flash intensity and k , a curve fitting parameter. In this model, I try to obtain an estimate for the number of compartments and their size in both rods and cones. From the results, I have an estimate of the single photon response and a value for "k" .


Figure 3: Shape of the Intensity-Response
Curve in the "Total Occlusion Model".

Weber-Fechner Adaptation

Under non-bleaching light conditions, the reduction in sensitivity of photoreceptors as the background light increases in intensity follows a law, described more than a century ago, the Weber-Fechner law. It shows that the normalized sensitivity falls as the background intensity "I" increases according to the simple relation " Io/(I + Io) ", Io being the intensity required to reduce the sensitivity by one half.

It is interesting to note that one century before Weber and Fechner, the frenchman Pierre Bouguer was the first to measure the effect of ambient light on threshold in the photopic state. His measure of increment threshold was 1/64 of the background intensity, a value still accepted today.

The adaptation properties of a compartment model had never been analyzed before. My approach is a so called "black box" approach and follows the following lines. After an isomerization which produced a maximal effect, the compartment is perturbed and the reactions controlling the response are being restored to their equilibrium dark adapted values. Of the many reactions going through this process, one of them is rate limiting and I have made the hypothesis that the shape of the single photon response reflects this rate limiting reaction which controls the sensitivity. It is therefore important to define a shape for the single photon response and I have chosen the simple exponential. That is, following an isomerization, the photocurrent has a sharp rise followed by an exponential decay, characterized by a time constant. This is not a bad approximation, since dark adapted rods and cones show this behavior [5].

To analyse a compartment system, I make use of a theorem in Statistical Mechanics called "The Ergodic hypothesis" or " The theorem of Ergodicity" which states : For a stationary random process, a large number of observations made on a single system at N arbitrary instants of time have the same statistical properties as observing N arbitrary chosen systems at the same time from an ensemble of similar systems. If I equate compartment to system, I can analyse the behavior of single compartment over time, under a given background condition and predict the behavior the whole photoreceptor made of a given number of compartments.

Weber-Fechner curve

After an isomerization which produces a maximal response (normalized here to 1) decaying exponentially with a time constant "T", the amplitude of the response to a following photon will depend on the time since the preceding isomerization and will be equal to " 1 - Exp[-t/T] ". Since the intervals between isomerizations are Poisson distributed, one can simulate a given background intensity and find out the mean response in the compartment. This was done using Mathematica, and the dots in Fig.4 are the results of such a simulation. It can be seen that the dots lie exactly over the curve Io/(Io + I). The conclusion being that such a system adapts exactly as the Weber-Fechner law predicts. This is a major contribution of this analysis.

Figure 4: Sensitivity as a function of background
The Weber-Fechner curve.

The single parameter Io, which up to now, was simply adjusted to fit the experimental data, is now linked to the structure of the outer segment , that is the number of compartments, and the decay time constant of the single photon response. The relationship being that Io is equal to N/T, where N is the number of compartments and T, the time constant of the decay.

The results are that, from the knowledge of size of the compartments, their number and the decay time constant of the single photon response, one can localize in an absolute fashion the position of both the intensity and the adaptation curves on their intensity axis.

Results and Discussion

The cone case

The small flash response of a mammalian cones peaks at about 50 msec.; the cascade proteins iodopsin, transducin and phosphodiesterase have diffusion coefficient ranging from 0.5 to 2 microns square per sec. Diffusing in two dimensions, very few of these excited molecules can leave a fold having a diameter of 1.5 to 2 microns in this short amount of time. Cyclic GMP, which diffuses faster, in order to be hydrolysed in the active fold, has first to find the exit in its own fold and then find the entrance to active fold. My hypothesis is that this is a rare event. Inside the active fold, it can be shown by simple calculus that the number of active phosphodiesterase molecules can exceed the number of free cGMP molecules present. Therefore, the possibility exists that all the fold cationic channels are closed following a single isomerization.

The first result of this analysis is that, if in the cones, the fold represents a compartment and the response within that compartment is maximal, then the single photon response is 1/N, where N is the number of folds. From electron microscope pictures, one knows that the number of folds per micron is about 33. Thus from the total length of the cone in microns multiplied by 33 gives the number of folds. For the turtle cone, the number of folds is close to 800 yielding a prediction for the single photon response of 0.125 % change, this is in agreement with experimentally observed values of 0.16% [6]. It also indicates why cones are in general short; if adding a fold to the cone outer segment increases the photon catching probability, it reduces at the same time the response from 1/N to 1/(N+1). Nature had to make a compromise between catching photons and giving a response of adequate size.

From the dimensions of the compartment, that is the cone fold, it is possible to calculate a value for the factor " k "is the exponential saturation formula [7]. Knowledge of the optical density per unit length and the quantum efficiency are required to derive that for cones " k " is equal to : 0.00059 times the square of the diameter of the cone outer segment expressed in microns. This formula was derived for cones stimulated transversely; this corresponds to the experimental situation when recording from the outer segment. It is also valid for axial stimulation, which corresponds to the physiological situation, as long as the outer segments are not too long. For Macaque cones which have a diameter in the order of 1.5 microns, the value for " k " calculated with the above formula is equal to 0.001 square microns close to the experimentally obtained value of 0.0004 [8].

To obtain an estimate of the background intensity (measured in isomerizations per sec.) which will reduce the sensitivity by 50 %, one simply divides the number of compartment ( 800 in the case of the turtle cone) by the the decay time constant of the small flash cone response measured from experimental data. This gives an isomerization rate of 7300 per sec. for Io , when the experimental ones are from 2000-16000 per sec [9].

The rod case

For the rods, the compartment is not defined by membranes as it was the case for the cone, it is rather a combination of the facts that the proteins involved in the phototransduction cascade have all a limited lifetime and that the cGMP molecule controlling the opening of the cationic channels has a much reduced coefficient of diffusion in the environment of the rod outer segment. Time to peak for the mammalian rod response is about 100 msec., this allows more transducin and more phosphodiesterase to be activated by a single rhodopsin . The action of the biochemistry can spread beyond the interdisk space and extend longitudinally. The geometry of the rod stack of disks is also important in the sense that the cGMP molecules located between the disks must be hydrolysed first if the reduction in concentration is to proceed longitudinally. This limits the action of the biochemistry, we are in the presence of what I call an "operational compartment".

The exact solution for the longitudinal cGMP concentration close to the plasma membrane,after an isomerization in a given disk, would require complex calculations in fluid dynamics. Therefore, an empirical formula has been obtained from the analysis of the single photon response in many species. It says that the closed channels cover an area of plasma membrane equal to that contained in a disk (two leaflets) of the outer segment. Simple math yields for the "occlusion length" a length of outer segment equal to half the diameter. For the frog and mammalian rods this gives a current reduction close to 5% resulting from a single isomerization, the value obtained experimentally. A set of calculations similar to those done for the cone gives a value of "k" for rods equal to 0.01 times the cube of the diameter expressed in microns. This allows the absolute location of the intensity-response curve on the intensity axis. For mammalian rods, the calculated value for k is 0.08 microns square, while experimentally obtained values are in the range of 0.006-0.07. [7,10]

The number of compartments "N" in rods is obtained by dividing the length of the outer segment by d/2, and yields a number close to 20. Io in the Weber-Fechner relation is obtained by dividing 20 by the time constant of the exponential fitted to the decay of the single photon response. For monkey and human rods, the predictions of the model are that Io should be in the range of 110-113 isomerizations per sec. when experimental values are in the range of 100-120 per sec. [7,10]

Conclusion

Analysis of the geometrical structure of the vertebrate outer segment has yielded interesting dividends.

Finally, the model can be tested in the sense that, in cold blooded vertebrate, the time constant of the decay of the single photon response changes with the temperature[11] . One can test if the adaptation properties (Io) vary accordingly.

6,494 posted on 02/09/2003 6:21:22 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwininian - fairness like natural selection is defined by how it effects Darwin's theory)
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To: AndrewC
What I said. There is no photon counter. The single photon response is a statistical construct.
6,495 posted on 02/09/2003 6:28:26 PM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
The single photon response is a statistical construct.

The term is still single photon response.

6,496 posted on 02/09/2003 6:51:28 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwininian - fairness like natural selection is defined by how it effects Darwin's theory)
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To: donh; exmarine
Slavery in Roman times wasn't one whit more civilized than in the anti-bellum South

True, although slavery as practiced by the Hebrews -- at least if OT directions were followed -- was.

Another point to be noted is that a large percentage of early Christians were slaves. The NT specifically commands free Christians to treat slaves as brothers.

6,497 posted on 02/10/2003 10:28:07 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
I don't think anyone argues that the treatment of slaves has not varied from time to time and master to master.

I can assure you, as a seven generation southerner, that we have defended slavery in almost exactly the same terms as ex has defended ancient slavery. (They were better off here). As a matter of fact, this argument has been made quite recently, in reference to descendents of Africans.

I accept Christianity as the best single source of moral ideas, but my point is that the Bible does not put an end to moral thought. It requires more than historical context. It requires imagination and heart when applied to new situations.

6,498 posted on 02/10/2003 1:03:13 PM PST by js1138
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To: Tribune7
Slavery in Roman times wasn't one whit more civilized than in the anti-bellum South True, although slavery as practiced by the Hebrews -- at least if OT directions were followed -- was.

OT directions? You mean, like the slaying and enslavement of the Midianites? The proper regulations of slave cudgel-slayings? I'll pass, thanks. What is with this strange blind spot you and exmarine share? Well-regulated, kindly disposed slavery is still slavery, and it's still bleeding odious, eh?

Another point to be noted is that a large percentage of early Christians were slaves. The NT specifically commands free Christians to treat slaves as brothers.

Which still, I note, leaves the Midianites for cudgel fodder. Not exactly a big encouragement for us apostates, to adopt your version of the One True Morality, eh?

6,499 posted on 02/10/2003 3:05:34 PM PST by donh
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To: donh
What is with this strange blind spot you and exmarine share?

Actually, I think we are demonstrating a better understaning of history and human depravity than yourself.

Why do you think slavery is wrong?

6,500 posted on 02/10/2003 3:14:29 PM PST by Tribune7
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