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To: LiteKeeper
Name a single eye witness to the "evolutionary" beginning of the universe.

Name an eye witness to creation.

My Old Testament history class at Oklahoma Baptist University taught me that the two different creation stories (yes, there are two, ready Genesis chaps 1 and 2) were given to Man by divine inspiration.

Since when can people have a clear understanding of what God is saying to them? If that were so, then why aren't all Christians in the same denomination? Are we saved by grace, or is it works?

Humans can never completly understand God. So I conclude that the two different creation stories in the Bible cannot possibly precise "fact". They are imperfect interpretations by humans of what God told them.

84 posted on 08/28/2002 10:55:54 AM PDT by narby
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To: narby
Are we saved by grace, or is it works?

By neither, but a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Denominations are not 'Christian', some of the individuals within them are.

98 posted on 08/28/2002 11:01:49 AM PDT by dubyagee
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To: narby
Name an eye witness to creation.
Answer: God was the eye witness

Before you dismiss and revisit your objections to the two stories, please read Genesis Contradictions? I am afraid your professors at Oklahoma Baptist University did you no favors by teaching you that very antiquated concept, long since refuted by competent scholars. Again, please read the linked article - it isn't very long.

Since when can people have a clear understanding of what God is saying to them?
If your contention is true, why did God bother to give us the Scriptures in the first place? No, we cannot understand God completely, but we can understand those things that He has revealed to us.

If that were so, then why aren't all Christians in the same denomination? Are we saved by grace, or is it works?

Accounting for denominations is not that hard to understand. There is no one church organization laid out in Scripture, for instance. There is a considerable gap culturally and historically from the Early Church. And, there is a wide range in tastes in the people of God. Isn't interesting that God is blessing all kinds of churches (which hold to the Word, and the diety of Christ.) Conservative scholars are in agreement that salvation is by grace...only the more liberal churches hold to a works oriented salvation...if they hold to any salvation at all.

Granted there are imperfect interpretations by humans, but God knew that would be the case, as well. And yet somehow, His kingdom has been advancing for 2000 years - even though that advancement has been through the efforts of imperfect humans.

grace and peace

182 posted on 08/28/2002 12:24:52 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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