Am I to Understand?

Joe Phillips | 7-28-02 | Joe Phillips

[BADJOE]

Free Republic and Liberty Post.org

To all:

I would hope your appearances and posting on these pages states your desire to undo years of liberal policies in this land I hope we all dearly love. I would hope that a hundred successful LibertyPost.org and FreeRepublics would advance the cause we all hold near and dear.

From what I have read here it seems many are more interested in fighting each other than they are in advancing the cause of individual liberty and limited constitution government as envisioned by our forefathers.

If my second paragraph is the truth, shame on you.

Let us stop the petty bickering about crap that doesn't amount to a hill of blue beans and get on with the job at hand.

[BADJOE]

Fighting over ideas is very good. It sharpens all of us.

Thanks Nick.

[ned]

Thanks for the ping. My hunger strike continues! "No justice, no Big Macs!"

[TLBSHOW]

Thats is a fact, and leave it to Ann Coulter to have the correct answer. The democrats are nothing but smear vile rats!

[Twodees]

It's polite to ping the people you're flaming...

It's unneccessary to ping someone to a thread they're on already. Obviously, you haven't seen me flame anyone, if you call that a flame. ;-)

[tpaine]

Its 'rich' but its also a true story.
And my hands are just as clean as most here.

[stands2reason]

But they, IMO, have found a crease in the posting guidelines, and are just trying to bait people interested in the honest exchange of ideas.

Maybe the libertarians aren't complaining? They should know a moderator isn't going to babysit each and every thread to see who's misbehaving or not. You gotta get their attention by saying something

2trievers, regarding your opinion of lack of evenhandedness by the mods: Are you being ignored after complaining about posts that should be pulled, or do you just see things that don't get pulled that you think ought to? I think the statists are, by their nature, more apt to complain to the mods about what they consider inappropriate posts, just as libertarians are, again, by their nature, less likely to push that "abuse" button.

[sleavelessinseattle]

If you want to be taken seriously on this forum you might think about cleaning up your act.

Allright Jim Rob...You've had plenty of time to digest my suggestions of allowing anonymous tracking of AM's. You have never acknowledged my existance, although I've tried to support you consistently...What about my suggestion, or have you decided not to take me seriously despite the fact that I have solicited feedback on my posts in the past to no effect. What is this sink or swim with no rules land?

I'm seriously trying to work out how to fix this country whether you personally believe I AM or not...But I'm looking at a bunch of people who are going to WALK WITH THEIR MONEY if you don't start providing more objective data on why posts and threads get deleted...If I get banned...I hope people remember that I've tried repeatedly to get feedback on what to do to help this movement...I WANT CHANGE IN THE US POLITICAL SYSTEM and I'll do whatever it takes to turn FR into a WEAPON to DO IT! If you alienate people by leaving an aura of favoritism and priviledge to stink up this great creation, YOU Sir are shooting yourself AND the cause in the foot and you LOSE my great respect which you have, although you're circling the drain to lose it ALL, today!

[Willie Green]

To me, that kind if nasty bull just proves my inital point, not yours.

You have no point. Just false accusations.

[tpaine]

BTW, you wrote:

"Abuse reports from people with unclean hands are not taken seriously."

I was under the impression that the new rules on abuse reports
say that they are anonomous to the mods. - Not so?

[Admin Moderator]

While one would think that, that isn't the case. We get tons of complaints which obviously are made by libertarian posters, just as many that we get made by people complaining about libertarian posters.

Neither side likes it when we pull their stuff, and neither side likes it when we don't pull the stuff being complained about.

[tpaine]

Whatever.

[Admin Moderator]

Reports come in anonymously. If we ask Jim who submitted them, however, he will tell us. This is useful when the item being considered is a flame war. Seeing who has been goading and then hitting abuse is useful.

In addition, every poster has a reliability rating that we do see. If a person makes a ridiculous complaint, we can knock down their reliability rating. And if their rating falls below a certain threshold, then their reports get filtered out.

Thanks, AM

[Abundy]

Hah! That's rich. "Personal attacks and insults" are your first and last names and inflicting pain is your game. Abuse reports from people with unclean hands are not taken seriously. If you want to be taken seriously on this forum you might think about cleaning up your act.

That sound you hear is made by several posters employing what is known as the "Golf Clap."

[f.Christian]

You're in the wrong place if you're looking for positive feedback on the FR---expect negative!

[ArneFufkin]

Let it be known that I am afraid of no one.

You're just lucky I don't have access to a secure credit card platform to donate to FR directly or buy spiffy Free Republic merchandise - not necessarily inlcuding a BADJOE collector's bobblehead doll, MurryMom Action figure set or the "Boys of LewRockwell.com" creepy card series. Gum? That's for RINOs.

DOH!

[tpaine]

"Abuse reports from people with unclean hands are not taken seriously. If you want to be taken seriously on this forum you might think about cleaning up your act."

That sound you hear is made by several posters employing what is known as the "Golf Clap."

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Sour grapes on an empty 'abundy' stomach this morning.

-- And you might try a serious bit of 'hand cleaning'.
- Thanks.

[dirtboy]

Maybe the libertarians aren't complaining? They should know a moderator isn't going to babysit each and every thread to see who's misbehaving or not. You gotta get their attention by saying something

They probably complain. But some posters are slick enough to say "Libertarians are just interested in legalizing pot because they are druggies" without directly attacking individual posters. That's what I mean about finding a crease in the posting guidelines.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

FREE PADILLA!

[StarFan]

From what I have read here it seems many are more interested in fighting each other than they are in advancing the cause of individual liberty and limited constitution government as envisioned by our forefathers. Posted by BadJoe

Think I'll mosey on over to Lib. Org and see if I can start a fight. (It ain't easy being Irish) 24 posted on 7/28/02 3:36 PM Eastern by elbucko.

Go ahead. It is fun .27 posted on 7/28/02 3:39 PM Eastern by BADJOE

Which is it Badjoe? On one hand you condemn the infighting and on another you encourage it. From what I gather, because of the cautic comments from anti-freepers and freepers alike, the site originator moved all such nonsense to a separate forum so that their main site can have honest debate. I think their efforts should be commended.

[Abundy]

FREE PADILLA!

Just spewed beverage all over my monitor...you really should add a /sarcasm after that sort of post.

I'm reminded of "Father Padilla meets the perfect gnat" - don't know why, but that title just sort of came to me, wish I had that album on CD.