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Am I to Understand?
Joe Phillips | 7-28-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 07/28/2002 12:03:58 PM PDT by BADJOE

Free Republic and Liberty Post.org

To all:

I would hope your appearances and posting on these pages states your desire to undo years of liberal policies in this land I hope we all dearly love. I would hope that a hundred successful LibertyPost.org and FreeRepublics would advance the cause we all hold near and dear.

From what I have read here it seems many are more interested in fighting each other than they are in advancing the cause of individual liberty and limited constitution government as envisioned by our forefathers.

If my second paragraph is the truth, shame on you.

Let us stop the petty bickering about crap that doesn't amount to a hill of blue beans and get on with the job at hand.


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To: cva66snipe
Sniper, rdb3 and JoeDon are talking about Liberty Forum. They don't know the difference between LF and LP and won't listen if you tell them.
221 posted on 07/28/2002 3:16:40 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Willie Green
FR appears to be making progress in your education . - Thanks - tpaine


FR doesn't appear to have improved YOUR critical thinking if you can't distinguish between the RLC and the little wannabe forums created by the malcontents.


Wannabe forums?
- Where have I failed to so distinguish?

- In fact, when did you first imagine that I compared the RLC to other forums?
222 posted on 07/28/2002 3:16:51 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: BADJOE; Twodees
Not true and you know it. I selected the FR section and it automaticly went to both breaking news and the FR section. It is a programming thing that they control.

I concur with BadJoe. After his post, I went over there, clicked on latests posts and saw an AFer wankerama regarding his thread. Like pirhanas on a dead capybara (gotta quit watching Discovery channel). BTW, twodees, I intend to shamelessly rip off your 'wankerama' line...

223 posted on 07/28/2002 3:16:52 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Jim Robinson
Peace, eh? Let's drop the subject.
224 posted on 07/28/2002 3:17:44 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: Twodees
What? We're not all conservatives here? Surprise, surprise.

I can disagree with Bushbots who spin and spin? Kewl

These FRolk wouldn't know what it means to be CONSERVATIVE if it was tattooed on their foreheads. &;-)

225 posted on 07/28/2002 3:19:22 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: TLBSHOW
Don't even bother wasting the energy to post that stuff here. Joe went over and made a nice gesture, telling people its more important to work on changing the government, and the next thing you know, Mojo has pulled a RAINMAN and is barfing up his favorite quotes, with the perpetually cranky GFTB singing back up.
226 posted on 07/28/2002 3:19:30 PM PDT by diotima
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To: diotima; TLBSHOW
I don't want their stuff here anyway. Those who want to read it know where it's at. No need to drag it over here.
227 posted on 07/28/2002 3:21:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: diotima
For a short while that stuff certainly did take over the Latest Posts page and it was being carried on by BobJ, A Navy Vet and the usual crew of AFers who mysteriously showed up at exactly the same time the FReepers came to play.

That it is off the screen and into its own folder is due to the efforts of the site manager, not to any restraint on the part of the wankathon participants. Bob posted another troll vanity to breaking news this past week, so it isn't for lack of trying that the wankathon doesn't dominate the view there.
228 posted on 07/28/2002 3:23:04 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: BADJOE
In my opinion, an uneducated electorate means it doesn't matter who gets elected - garbage in = garbage out. Given the public skool system's record on teaching civics, there's a lot of catch-up work to do. That means, again in my opinion, that the job of the conservative who has taken the time to make up for the failure of public education system in that area, is to endeavor to educate the public by whatever means available as to the nature of our government and law as the founders envisioned it. There are a number of different approaches to that goal but the bottom line is that I believe education is the ball to keep your eye on. Conservatives can point to the Founding Fathers for support, socialists can't.

What I see happening all too often in whatever discussion forum is the same thing that happens on CB radios. Everybody behind a microphone (or keyboard) becomes The Great And Powerful Oz (...Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!) which is a function of people who are too impressed with their own personalities. They invest way too much energy in personality-driven, internecine political intrigue that, in relation to the big picture, is completely pointless - and in the process take their eyes off the ball. Some people are so good at this that it makes me wonder if they aren't being paid to do it. It's a puerile waste of time and energy that this country doesn't need. That statement is not meant as a "why can't we all just get along..." It's my opinion that for me as a "conservative" or more accurately, a "Constitutionalist," my job is to pass along that information that I consider useful to those that are receptive to it, and where they are receptive to it, then move along - not waste a lot of time spinning my wheels with those people who would rather engage in name calling and the usual load of personality-driven crap. I'm not accusing anybody in particular of this, I'm saying I'm too busy for it.

The time I spent over at LP reviewing the latest posts relative to FR is a classic example of what I don't have time for. Certain people over there spend their time whining about FR while casting personal aspersions against FR members instead of posting information they consider to be of use obviously have too much time on their hands. I don't have time for them or that variety of discussion.

229 posted on 07/28/2002 3:24:51 PM PDT by agitator
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To: diotima
I saw mojo, he is a looney tune!
230 posted on 07/28/2002 3:24:53 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: BADJOE
Right-on Joe...

Let's stay focused on our goals, forward the action, stay on purpose and Lets' Roll !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!
231 posted on 07/28/2002 3:24:54 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Senator Pardek
Jesus, people - we are just talking about websites! Are your lives so empty? Are you still puzzled as to why no one wants to have lunch with you at work, and why your kids don't talk to you? What the hell is your collective problem?

Bingo!

I was sitting here, reading, visualizing a pack of wolves attacking each other as the hunters pick them off one by one.

And thinking of that colony of ants in south Europe who, working together for years, managed to develop a colony 3,000 miles in length.

Ants or wolves?
232 posted on 07/28/2002 3:25:04 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BunnySlippers; UCANSEE2; John Jamieson; Amore; Valpal1; cyncooper; redlipstick; demsux; ...
#114...good post.

what's an AFer? Anti-freeper. A motley crew of former FR posters who, since JimRob will not listen to their demands about how FR should be run (or, in some cases, liberal idiots who keep coming here so they can be drop-kicked out after fifteen minutes), now roam from site to site, demonstrating to no one but themselves how JimRob is getting rich off of FR donations. Basically, they're a bunch of twits with the emotional development of junior high students.

233 posted on 07/28/2002 3:25:07 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: rdb3
"Don't stop there, DJ. It also has a band of vicious bigots. I was invited there, but I hurried up and got out of that place."

I looked at that place twice. The first time when out of curiosity when I first heard about it. The second time was to see if "they really said that" (after reading something here referencing something there that was mind-bogglingly off the wall).

Each time I felt dirty after just looking at the place. I've never seen so much hatred under one roof.

It's not just that it's "there", or even that it seems to be tolerated, but more like (or so it seems to me) it's encouraged.

I do think people should take at least one look there, just so that they can see what a "lunatics running the asylum" scenario really looks like. But then again I also think people should see the video of the chechnian terrorist ripping out the throat of the Russian soldier, because people need to see just how evil pure unmitigated evil can be.

234 posted on 07/28/2002 3:25:52 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Jim Robinson
BUMP
235 posted on 07/28/2002 3:26:49 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: BADJOE
Not true and you know it. I selected the FR section and it automaticly went to both breaking news and the FR section. It is a programming thing that they control.

If it's not true, I didn't know it, Joe. It appeared that you had posted that to Breaking News since that's where it showed up. I apologize for assuming the worst about your intentions.

236 posted on 07/28/2002 3:30:03 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: agitator
I agree.
237 posted on 07/28/2002 3:30:47 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: Twodees
Sniper, rdb3 and JoeDon are talking about Liberty Forum. They don't know the difference between LF and LP and won't listen if you tell them.

Liberty Forum is a new one on me I honestly don't know a thing about it. I've never heard of it. Liberty Post did get a little hot for while and Neil did get it under control. There does have to be some reasonable discipline in any serious forum. Just curious Liberty Forum sounds like a former Freeper whom I won't mentions forum. Just a wild guess though. One that was around under another name or several since?

238 posted on 07/28/2002 3:32:10 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: technochick99
Is there any way to get the anti-libertarians to stop posting nasty (and illogical) crap to threads needlessly? It's usually on a negative thread on which no one has made a libertarian point, and is typically very insulting to libertarian posters. And yet, they appear never to be told to stop. Ruins many a decent thread, if you ask me.

This bothers me greatly, too. The problem could be that since libertarians are not the type to go whining, "Mommy, he's bothering me," the mods' never know what these "seminar" posters are doing.

239 posted on 07/28/2002 3:32:52 PM PDT by Auntie Mame
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To: tpaine
Wannabe forums?
- Where have I failed to so distinguish?
- In fact, when did you first imagine that I compared the RLC to other forums?

In Reply #63, your very first reply to me on this thread.

I was commenting to BADJOE about the whiney little splinter groups of malcontent libertarians that form these little wannabe forums, and you chimed in as though the RLC was the same darn thing.

If you can't keep track of your bait, you shouldn't go trolling.

240 posted on 07/28/2002 3:36:00 PM PDT by Willie Green
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