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Oral-sex issue hits middle schools (posted 6/10/2002)
Lexington Herald Leader ^ | Jun. 09, 2002 | Valarie Honeycutt Spears

Posted on 06/10/2002 4:35:38 AM PDT by Pern

Isolated incidents of oral sex on campus and talk among middle-school students of the behavior occurring at off-campus parties has alarmed some Fayette County school administrators and parents who plan meetings on the topic.

Physicians, including one who has seen an increase in sexually transmitted diseases among middle school students, and other professionals are promoting frank discussions about oral sex to discourage students from engaging in it. Still, all agree the practice is limited to a small number of students, some of whom do not equate oral sex to intercourse.

Since Beaumont Middle School principal Tom Mowery wrote to parents in December asking them "to be aware of the prevalence of oral sex at off-campus parties at the middle-school level," administrators at one school referred an incident to law enforcement, and administrators at another school, Jessie Clark Middle, called in parents to discuss a situation.

Diane Woods, the district's middle school director, put the topic on the agenda for a future principals meeting. She said she was notified of a report of oral sex occurring between two students on campus at Tates Creek Middle School several weeks ago.

Without releasing specifics, Tates Creek Middle School assistant principal Earl Stivers said the incident was investigated "both by law enforcement and administratively."

Students' remarks have made doctors and parents fear the activity is more widespread.

Dr. Hatim Omar, a University of Kentucky specialist in adolescent medicine, said that just since January, he has treated at least 10 middle school-age students for sexually transmitted diseases they said they had contracted through oral sex. That's up from six cases in 2001 and two each in 1999 and 2000.

Four students, treated for tonsillitis caused by gonorrhea, attributed their conditions to so-called "head parties," Omar said.

Also since January, he has seen students from every middle school in Fayette County who admit that they have engaged in oral sex or attended parties where students have engaged in oral sex.

Parents and administrators are responding. Besides principals addressing the topic, Beaumont PTA president Debbie Boian wants middle school PTA leaders to discuss developing programs at each school to talk to students about risky behavior.

"It's easy to say, 'Oh those kids are just bragging about having oral sex,'" Boian said. "But if there is any truth to it, you should" address the issue.

Nationally, public-health experts report that teen-agers appear to be engaging in high-risk sexual practices without caution and with alarming casualness. Nearly 1 in 10 reports losing his or her virginity before the age of 13, a 15 percent increase since 1997, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. According to several surveys, as many as half of teens ages 13 to 19 say they have had oral sex. Other communities across the country are grappling with the problem and are instituting policies that require more supervision and education.

Lexington pediatrician Tom Pauly said his patients are asking him about oral sex and telling him they think it's safer than vaginal intercourse.

"It's a new issue," said Bryan Station Middle Counselor Lynette Schmiedeknecht. "It's more part of the culture, more talked about. It seems that in talking with the kids, they don't consider oral sex (to be) sex. They just think it's something they do as an adolescent."

Dealing with incidents directly and speaking bluntly with middle school students is key to helping them understand the ramifications of their decisions, parents and doctors said. Damage to reputations and illnesses are two of the dangers.

"We advise them to abstain," Pauly said. "We talk about medical complications and the psychosocial complications of engaging in oral sex at such a young age."

After Jessie Clark Middle students talked about the popularity of oral sex with an assistant principal this spring, principal Steve Carmichael said: "We invited two moms to come in and shared our concerns. It wasn't a conversation as awkward as you might think. We would rather overreact than underreact."

The issue isn't a routine part of sex education classes, officials said.

Mike Kennedy, acting health education coordinator, said that until 1990, the district had a sex education curriculum. But now, site-based councils at each school are responsible for deciding what kind of sex education is dispensed, he said.

Seven middle schools offer programs that teach abstinence only, Kennedy said. Other schools cover sex education in health classes. But Kennedy said he doesn't think oral sex is discussed anywhere as part of the middle school curriculum.

At Beaumont, principal Mowery said the quick intervention -- writing to parents -- was successful. Parents responded to meetings about how to discuss sexual issues with their children. And as the year progressed, counselors and administrators had fewer kids talking about the parties.

Only a small minority of students have actually had oral sex, Mowery thinks.

"Ninety percent of our kids," he said, "make good decisions in every aspect of their lives."


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To: Campion
She can't "deeply care" for a guy without sleeping with him?

Words in the mouth again? Mercy. I didn't say that caring meant sex. But for some couples, that is an expression of care.

161 posted on 06/10/2002 2:36:21 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: yendu bwam
Proving how shallow your care is. Which is why I leave the judgement up to the people involved in the relationships to determine what care is feigned and what care is sincere
162 posted on 06/10/2002 2:37:36 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: JediGirl
As soon as schools here get their abstinence only programs out of the classroom, i'll stop complaining.

Then they need to get their non-abstinence only programs out of the classroom, too, and leave "sex education" at home where it belongs.

You don't want to subsidize teaching abstinence. I don't want to subsidize teaching promiscuity. You get your religion out of the classroom, and I'll do the same for mine. But if you won't, then you and I are implacable enemies.

And yeah, I'm "touchy" because I care about my kids. Your government-paid condom instructors and abortion procurers don't give a flying d*mn about my kids' welfare.

163 posted on 06/10/2002 2:38:41 PM PDT by Campion
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To: yendu bwam
Their disdain is from ignorance and ideological zealotry. Public schools problems are caused by the parents of the students. For the students at many schools there are no parents only a parent. Female headed families are disasters and that is what the schools failures reflect.

Most do not teach the joys of anal sex or hand out condoms etc. these are exceptions blown up by fanatics to represent all public schools.

As far as teacher training is concerned until the education departments are either eliminated or reduced in power they will turn out incompetents.

Those true believers who hate public schools will not admit that the opportunity costs of home schooling are enormous and cannot be done on a huge scale without wrecking the economy.

165 posted on 06/10/2002 2:39:14 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: yendu bwam
I think men on average are rightly suspicious of women committing to them for life when such women have had many 'committed' and sexual relationships previously (and vice versa as well). And as for your family's raising you with abstinence stressed, it's still obvious that you yourself do not share that value, and that we don't.

Lack of virginity does not imply promiscuity...BROKEN RECORD. it does not imply that a woman has had sex with 30 men......... And I do not share that value, although I once did.

166 posted on 06/10/2002 2:39:18 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: Surfin
You're right.
167 posted on 06/10/2002 2:39:39 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: JediGirl
The point is: Teenagers will have sex. It is a fact. It is better that they do so with a condom and learn how to properly use one than to be told that sex is evil until you're married.

And you think the schools, which have difficulty teaching kids to read and write and add 2 + 2, are qualified to handle this.

Pardon me while I have a chuckle.

Laughing self senseless, returns to keyboard

Truth be told, this is a matter that should be handled by parents. Government arrogance has led to the impression that parents are too stupid to be handling this job. While many parents are stupid, most parents are indeed aware of what it is they did to produce the kid in the first place. Unless of course they got taught Biology in a government school too.

Regards, Ivan, Dark Lord of the Sith ;)

168 posted on 06/10/2002 2:41:46 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: headsonpikes
Thanks for illustrating the "vibrating with hatred" I mentioned. Your words illustrate it better than I since your post is a farago of foolishness and fanatic idiocy which could only be produced by an ideological fanatic.
169 posted on 06/10/2002 2:41:56 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: mafree
Yes, you can say that again ! LOL

In high school, we thought that French kissing was " going far ".

170 posted on 06/10/2002 2:42:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JediGirl
Lack of virginity does not imply promiscuity...BROKEN RECORD. it does not imply that a woman has had sex with 30 men.........

Well, let's see... 3 months divided into one year times 10 years = 40

171 posted on 06/10/2002 2:42:18 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: JediGirl
it does not imply that a woman has had sex with 30 men

So if a girl loses her virginity at 14 (because, you know, teenagers are going to have sex no matter what), and waits until she knows a guy for say, 3 months before sleeping with him, and meets her future husband at 28 ... how many guys would you say she's "cared deeply for"? On average, I mean?

172 posted on 06/10/2002 2:42:50 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Pern
Physicians, including one who has seen an increase in sexually transmitted diseases among middle school students,

What are they doing to kids in public schools? Sex diseases?

174 posted on 06/10/2002 2:44:43 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: MadIvan
truth be told, this is a matter that should be handled by parents. Government arrogance has led to the impression that parents are too stupid to be handling this job.

agreed.

175 posted on 06/10/2002 2:45:04 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: JediGirl
Are you married and do you have any children ; or is this all just hypothetical on your part ? I think that answering this , would take some heat off you.
176 posted on 06/10/2002 2:45:14 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: yendu bwam
someone can't read...post 136
177 posted on 06/10/2002 2:45:52 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: rosebud
Clinton's hypocrisy ran sky high too while conservatives were called hypocrits arrogantly. The man wanted socialized education where parental privacy did not exist anymore, yet forbade us from checking out what was going on in OUR WHITEHOUSE!!!
178 posted on 06/10/2002 2:46:56 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: yendu bwam
Yes. Like angels, they call you to be the best you can be. --Much to be grateful for. And they are lucky too. I'll bet they know it.
179 posted on 06/10/2002 2:47:05 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: JediGirl
POST 136: "When I say "more than 3 months" it doesn't mean, exactly 3 months. It means longer than a short period of time so that you have a pretty well established idea as to who he is."
180 posted on 06/10/2002 2:47:12 PM PDT by JediGirl
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