Oral-sex issue hits middle schools (posted 6/10/2002)

Lexington Herald Leader ^ | Jun. 09, 2002 | Valarie Honeycutt Spears

[JediGirl]

She can't "deeply care" for a guy without sleeping with him?

Words in the mouth again? Mercy. I didn't say that caring meant sex. But for some couples, that is an expression of care.

[JediGirl]

Proving how shallow your care is. Which is why I leave the judgement up to the people involved in the relationships to determine what care is feigned and what care is sincere

[Campion]

As soon as schools here get their abstinence only programs out of the classroom, i'll stop complaining.

Then they need to get their non-abstinence only programs out of the classroom, too, and leave "sex education" at home where it belongs.

You don't want to subsidize teaching abstinence. I don't want to subsidize teaching promiscuity. You get your religion out of the classroom, and I'll do the same for mine. But if you won't, then you and I are implacable enemies.

And yeah, I'm "touchy" because I care about my kids. Your government-paid condom instructors and abortion procurers don't give a flying d*mn about my kids' welfare.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Their disdain is from ignorance and ideological zealotry. Public schools problems are caused by the parents of the students. For the students at many schools there are no parents only a parent. Female headed families are disasters and that is what the schools failures reflect.

Most do not teach the joys of anal sex or hand out condoms etc. these are exceptions blown up by fanatics to represent all public schools.

As far as teacher training is concerned until the education departments are either eliminated or reduced in power they will turn out incompetents.

Those true believers who hate public schools will not admit that the opportunity costs of home schooling are enormous and cannot be done on a huge scale without wrecking the economy.

[JediGirl]

I think men on average are rightly suspicious of women committing to them for life when such women have had many 'committed' and sexual relationships previously (and vice versa as well). And as for your family's raising you with abstinence stressed, it's still obvious that you yourself do not share that value, and that we don't.

Lack of virginity does not imply promiscuity...BROKEN RECORD. it does not imply that a woman has had sex with 30 men......... And I do not share that value, although I once did.

[yendu bwam]

You're right.

[MadIvan]

The point is: Teenagers will have sex. It is a fact. It is better that they do so with a condom and learn how to properly use one than to be told that sex is evil until you're married.

And you think the schools, which have difficulty teaching kids to read and write and add 2 + 2, are qualified to handle this.

Pardon me while I have a chuckle.

Laughing self senseless, returns to keyboard

Truth be told, this is a matter that should be handled by parents. Government arrogance has led to the impression that parents are too stupid to be handling this job. While many parents are stupid, most parents are indeed aware of what it is they did to produce the kid in the first place. Unless of course they got taught Biology in a government school too.

Regards, Ivan, Dark Lord of the Sith ;)

[justshutupandtakeit]

Thanks for illustrating the "vibrating with hatred" I mentioned. Your words illustrate it better than I since your post is a farago of foolishness and fanatic idiocy which could only be produced by an ideological fanatic.

[nopardons]

Yes, you can say that again ! LOL

In high school, we thought that French kissing was " going far ".

[yendu bwam]

Lack of virginity does not imply promiscuity...BROKEN RECORD. it does not imply that a woman has had sex with 30 men.........

Well, let's see... 3 months divided into one year times 10 years = 40

[Campion]

it does not imply that a woman has had sex with 30 men

So if a girl loses her virginity at 14 (because, you know, teenagers are going to have sex no matter what), and waits until she knows a guy for say, 3 months before sleeping with him, and meets her future husband at 28 ... how many guys would you say she's "cared deeply for"? On average, I mean?

[lavaroise]

Physicians, including one who has seen an increase in sexually transmitted diseases among middle school students,

What are they doing to kids in public schools? Sex diseases?

[JediGirl]

truth be told, this is a matter that should be handled by parents. Government arrogance has led to the impression that parents are too stupid to be handling this job.

agreed.

[nopardons]

Are you married and do you have any children ; or is this all just hypothetical on your part ? I think that answering this , would take some heat off you.

[JediGirl]

someone can't read...post 136

[lavaroise]

Clinton's hypocrisy ran sky high too while conservatives were called hypocrits arrogantly. The man wanted socialized education where parental privacy did not exist anymore, yet forbade us from checking out what was going on in OUR WHITEHOUSE!!!

[Savage Beast]

Yes. Like angels, they call you to be the best you can be. --Much to be grateful for. And they are lucky too. I'll bet they know it.

[JediGirl]

POST 136: "When I say "more than 3 months" it doesn't mean, exactly 3 months. It means longer than a short period of time so that you have a pretty well established idea as to who he is."