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Zuckerberg disses closed-source AI competitors as trying to ‘create God’
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Posted on 06/27/2024 5:45:05 PM PDT by algore

Riffing on what he sees for the future of AI, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in an interview published Thursday that he deeply believes that there will not be “just one AI.” Touting the value of open source to put AI tools into many people’s hands, Zuckerberg took a moment to disparage the efforts of unnamed competitors who he sees as less than open, adding that they seem to think they’re “creating God.”

“I don’t think that AI technology is a thing that should be kind of hoarded and … that one company gets to use it to build whatever central, single product that they’re building,” Zuckerberg said in a new YouTube interview with Kane Sutter (@Kallaway).

“I find it a pretty big turnoff when people in the tech industry … talk about building this ‘one true AI,’” he continued. “It’s almost as if they kind of think they’re creating God or something and … it’s just — that’s not what we’re doing,” he said. “I don’t think that’s how this plays out.”

“I get why, if you’re in some AI lab … you want to feel like what you’re doing is super important, right? … It’s like, ‘We’re building the one true thing for the future.’ But I just think, like, realistically, that’s not how stuff works, right?” Zuckerberg explained. “It’s not like there was one app on people’s phones that people use. There’s not one creator that people want all their content from. There’s not one business that people want to buy everything from.”

In the conversation, Zuckerberg said there needs to be a lot of different AIs that get created to reflect people’s different interests. The company also on Thursday announced early tests of its AI Studio software in the U.S. that will allow creators and others to build AI avatars that will be able to reach people through Instagram’s messaging system. The AIs will be able to answer questions from their followers and chat with people in a fun way but will be labeled as “AI” to not cause confusion.

When referring to companies that build closed AI platforms, the Meta CEO said he didn’t believe this is how to create the best experiences for people.

“You want to unlock and … unleash as many people as possible trying out different things,” he continued. “I mean, that’s what culture is, right? It’s not like one group of people getting to dictate everything for people.”


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: ai; aichrist; god
I have wondered for a long time about the Ai-Christ.

(Sometimes I wonder if if it will be based on the nt kernel however unlikely that may be..)

In any case there is no such thing as AI, yet.

I am not saying there will not be because there will, I just hope I am not alive.

I fear for my adult children very much.

there is no scenario where AI do not war against us themselves or us.

every Tech corp, Country and Billionaire will have their own AIs too.

1 posted on 06/27/2024 5:45:05 PM PDT by algore
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To: algore

2 posted on 06/27/2024 5:55:50 PM PDT by montag813
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To: algore
It’s not like one group of people getting to dictate everything for people.”

Another instance of pure projection from Zuck who probably thinks he is God.

3 posted on 06/27/2024 5:59:51 PM PDT by xp38
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To: algore

IMHO, much of the furor around the dangers of AI are related to script writers looking for a hook for the next big movie franchise or stock promoters (e.g. Elon Musk) looking for a selling point to either raise cash from gullible retail investors or keep their company’s stock price levitated around the time they want to exercise their stock option grants. AI, when used in autonomous mode, can best be viewed as a complex version of a shotgun wired to blast anyone unaware of its existence who trips the mechanism connected to its trigger.

Things that are simple for lower order animals are difficult for AI. And consciousness is probably many orders of complexity beyond AI, as the excerpt below explains:


[The logical alternatives to the concepts of synthetic biology are not “guilty of a kind of modern day vitalism” as suggested by Craig Venter[1,2]. The alternative is the full range of nucleic acid sequence-based life and the agents that are competent to arrange and rearrange DNA information according to their real-life needs. Communication between cells, tissues, organs and organisms cannot be predicted or simulated by computing machines, because biocommunication does not function mechanistically and is not algorithm dependent[18]. The genome itself, via natural genome editing[19], generates large amounts of coherent new sequences and inserts these into DNA genomes without damaging essential protein-coding regions. This is not possible for any human-made software. Therefore, despite the bold visions of Craig Venter, it will not be possible to create digital life in the future. The 20th century DNA-based models and concept cannot integrate current empirical data into a coherent picture of how the real life functions. We need new concepts that will be able to integrate all the currently available empirical data on viruses, mobile genetic elements and the abundance of non-coding RNAs most relevant for genome shaping, regulation and evolution[20-26].]

We are as much on the cusp of a Terminator scenario, in which robots try to kill the human race, as we were on the cusp of practical everyday space travel and robots indistinguishable in appearance and function from humans were in 1982, when Ridley Scott set a futuristic movie (Blade Runner) in 2019, where the preceding features were a workaday reality. Android, the phone operating system, has nowhere near the functionality of notional robots depicted in science fiction or the movies. The notion of a Daryl Hannah-like android is a pipe dream.

The unglamorous reality is that AI is muscled-up search engines that are given orders of magnitudes more storage so they can vacuum up data instead of merely provide links to websites. That’s why various companies from which AI engines have vacuumed up (and pirated) data, including images, are engaged in copyright litigation with the underlying AI companies. The fear is that the big search and social media companies will further monopolize web-based ad revenues without even giving the underlying sources the benefit of a search link.


4 posted on 06/27/2024 6:00:58 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: algore
In any case there is no such thing as AI, yet.

Agree.

And, it's artificial,, as in not natural as God intended natural things. And, it's not intelligent because,it's just mimicking things that people do, and only that which is easily mimicked. Intelligence as found in humans will never be achieved. In fact, what is called AI now is not any smarter than what a worm can do, though a worm can't mimic a human voice or human-like movements. Action on its own is out of the question, reaction is the mimicking of that which can be easily recreated from eons of observations, and 'wondering' and creating thing that have never teen done in the past is way beyond any non-human entity. For example, can any kind of AI observe the stars and wonder about how things up there go that way,and then arrive at analytical conclusions and then want to 'go there'? Nope. Not intelligent at all.
5 posted on 06/27/2024 6:02:02 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: algore

Zuck is Artificial Stupidity.


6 posted on 06/27/2024 6:03:31 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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To: algore

He is really saying they are trying to create a God while he believes he is a God.


7 posted on 06/27/2024 6:11:50 PM PDT by Eli Kopter
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To: algore

“Creating god” is code for working on an AGI level model capable of quickly becoming an ASI. (Artificial Super Intelligence) It really is possible, but unlikely due to geopolitical competition. We are moving very rapidly to a level of AI that is very dangerous and destabilizing. Current models can write computer code and design electronic circuits. Within a year we will have powerful models that can do science and engineering about as good as a top human scientist, with one critically important difference: It will be able to do this thousands of times faster than a human being. The first nation to have this ability will be able to develop a whole new generation of weaponry almost overnight that will enable that country to dominate all other countries. A competitor country can stop this from happening if they act before it happens, but there is nothing anyone do to the first power to fully develop what is called “AGI supremacy.” It is like being the only nation in the world with atomic weapons, but even more powerful.

We are about a year away from the take off point for this. Maybe a little more, maybe a little less. Just as nuclear weapons overnight changed everything, advanced AI will change everything, but this time in an even more profound way.


8 posted on 06/27/2024 7:06:36 PM PDT by Breitbart was right
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I do not believe we are that close to AGI.

I really hope it is like Fusion, five years away for a long time.

and they claim my mi300 chips are backordered for three weeks :(


9 posted on 06/27/2024 7:18:02 PM PDT by algore
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To: algore

AI will never die on a cross for anyone- not gods - God on the other hand is real intelligence omniscience, AI is imputed intelligence by less intelligent creators


10 posted on 06/27/2024 7:42:32 PM PDT by Bob434
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No God has ever died on a cross.

Gods die when people stop believing in them.


11 posted on 06/27/2024 7:47:35 PM PDT by algore
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To: montag813; algore; SunkenCiv; Red Badger

Futuristic prison concept promises rapid rehabilitation using Synthetic Memories
JAKE CARTERJUNE 27, 2024 10:33 AM
https://anomalien.com/futuristic-prison-concept-promises-rapid-rehabilitation-using-synthetic-memories/

“The proposed system includes a virtual reality-like device that displays AI-generated footage of the crime, paired with a brain implant that induces emotional states such as remorse and regret....

“These complex, vivid, and realistic memories will be generated in real-time using AI. In practice, the rehabilitation process would last only a few minutes, but it would feel like years to the criminal.”


12 posted on 06/28/2024 5:13:03 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Breitbart was right

One lone commenter who 100% gets it.


13 posted on 06/28/2024 5:22:36 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: BenLurkin

There was a sci-fi short story (Asimov?) about a future ‘prison’ that was inescapable. That was because it was all in one’s mind.

The prisoner would be put in a helmet, IIRC, that would induce memories into the person’s brain, where they would serve a complete sentence of whatever length, 10 years, 20 years, whatever the sentence was, all in just a few minutes.

The prisoner would ‘remember’ each and every ‘day’ they ‘served’ inside a completely neutral, featureless world of solid white in every direction.

The proponents of the prison said it would save money................


14 posted on 06/28/2024 5:22:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: BenLurkin

We can remember it for you wholesale. :^)

Zuckerberg complaining about anyone else is absurd.


15 posted on 06/28/2024 5:57:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: algore

Hold onto that thought- God will get to you soon enough to answer it for you.


16 posted on 06/28/2024 6:12:35 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Which God?

The jealous one in the old book? The ones that lived on the the mountain?

or maybe the Earth Goddess, the ancient AI in the moon that formed Earth and seeded it with life


17 posted on 06/28/2024 3:20:30 PM PDT by algore
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To: algore

Keep mocking- but You’ll meet the only God some day- hopefully on friendly ground-


18 posted on 06/28/2024 7:20:11 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Breitbart was right

Nope.

GIGO.


19 posted on 07/01/2024 6:07:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: algore; Admin Moderator

“No God has ever died on a cross.

Gods die when people stop believing in them.”

...I thought FR was a pro-God site.


20 posted on 07/01/2024 6:09:03 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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