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Europe is looking to fight the flood of Chinese electric vehicles. But Europeans love them
Associated Press ^ | October 18, 2023 | Kelvin Chan

Posted on 10/18/2023 12:10:20 AM PDT by Olog-hai

When Laima Springe-Janssen was looking to replace her French-made gasoline-powered SUV with an electric car, she considered models from Volvo and Nissan.

The Volvo extras she wanted would have busted her budget, while the Nissan lacked the “wow factor.” The Copenhagen, Denmark, resident ended up buying a compact SUV from China’s BYD.

“I really, really love the car,” Springe-Janssen said. For the equivalent of about $50,000, the Atto 3 SUV came with “all these goodies” like a 360-degree dash cam, two years of free charging and an extra set of winter tires.

Her husband likes it so much he’s considering buying another BYD to replace their other car, from Volkswagen’s Skoda brand.

“I’m sorry, Europe. Go home,” she said. “China has a better offer.”

Her enthusiasm underscores how Chinese automakers are winning over drivers as they make major inroads into Europe’s electric vehicle market, challenging long-established homegrown brands in an industry that’s key to the continent’s green energy transition.

The competitive threat has spurred the European Union to launch an investigation into Beijing’s support for its EV industry. That adds to tech-related tensions between the West and China, which is one of Europe’s biggest trading partners and the world’s biggest auto market. …

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: byd; china; eussr; ev; firetraps; fouthreich; kelvinchan; redchina; skoda
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The left-wing media loves those phony demonyms . . . “Palestinians” and “Europeans” particularly, as with “Soviet people” in the past . . .
1 posted on 10/18/2023 12:10:20 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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I say not only “no” but “hell no” to a buying a ChiCom-built vehicle. No way, no how. No matter what make, no matter what model.


2 posted on 10/18/2023 12:16:08 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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Comes with it's own chicom spy/driver.


3 posted on 10/18/2023 12:28:30 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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This article reeks of rotten fish heads, Chinese propaganda. 50K on a car, then another 30K in four years to replace the battery. The truth is you can sell used EVs. Customers are not buying EVs. The scam is over.


4 posted on 10/18/2023 12:34:06 AM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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Replaced can sell with can’t sell.


5 posted on 10/18/2023 12:35:15 AM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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This was apparently the BYD logo from 2003 to 2008.


6 posted on 10/18/2023 12:37:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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EV’s are fine in a very limited range of uses.
Warm weather urban areas , retirement communities (some golf carts are ev’s )
Other than that - they are of not much use and will be problematic when they reach end of useful life and can’t be disposed of efficiently.
If I was living in a retirement community in the sun belt somewhere I’d probably consider buying one but until then I like my diesel pick up.


7 posted on 10/18/2023 1:27:01 AM PDT by Palio di Siena (P01135809)
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to launch an investigation into Beijing’s support for its EV industry.

Why?

They sure subsidize their ev’s as do we with forced taxpayer contributions.


8 posted on 10/18/2023 3:02:29 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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fake news from kelvin chan/AP.


9 posted on 10/18/2023 3:51:21 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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Everything we say to dismiss Chinese electric cars today echoes what we said about those cheap Japanese “rice burner” cars 50 years ago. Look at how that ended up...


10 posted on 10/18/2023 5:29:03 AM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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I say not only “no” but “hell no” to a buying a ChiCom-built vehicle. No way, no how. No matter what make, no matter what model

Bet you will buy one once they “drive” the Western car companies out of business. Or maybe you will take public transportation when the car workers are unemployed, which leads to car sellers and car repair businesses gone, stores gone, restaurants gone... etc.

11 posted on 10/18/2023 5:36:25 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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EU ,what a Joke , they control everything else but not EVs ,LOL


12 posted on 10/18/2023 6:33:04 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Can I imagine the ChiComs putting GM and Ford out of business? Maybe. Can I imagine the ChiComs putting the Germans and Japanese out of business? No.


13 posted on 10/18/2023 7:38:28 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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Germans yes, Japanese maybe. German is a high cost exporter with high labor costs. EVs use less labor and if coming from China, very low cost labor. So the hand writings on the wall for German car industry unless they go full robots. But what to do with laid off workers?

Also China does not need to earn a profit, they are a tool of the CCP.

14 posted on 10/18/2023 8:54:35 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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False comparison.

In the past (and still today), the ICE versus ICE competition favored the Japanese due to better quality control. US companies, which were probably already taken over by leftists (see the 45 communist goals for the USA: goal #37 states “Infiltrate and gain control of big business”), coddled trade unions (themselves run by leftists, per communist goal #36) and flouted quality control to a great degree, which frustrated many in the industry, particularly John DeLorean whose warnings about this fell on deaf ears. The notion of subsidizing auto manufacturing was not an issue here FWICS.

In the case of the EU, Red China is flooding the “social market economy” (as they call it there) with subsidized cheap junk firetraps, quality control not even a consideration in this instance; just quantity. The EU has the problem of a dearth of charging locations just like the USA. These vehicles (loosely termed) would be suitable only for short trips from city to city and/or within cities and suburbs. Zero resale value due to the problems with battery disposal. And of course, only targeted examples in the left-wing media.
15 posted on 10/18/2023 9:49:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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I can only imagine GM and Ford putting themselves out of business due to making junk.


16 posted on 10/18/2023 9:50:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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They’re idjits!


17 posted on 10/18/2023 10:20:50 AM PDT by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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Different circumstances, same end game.


18 posted on 10/18/2023 11:31:29 AM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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False comparison. Cannot extricate from that, sorry.


19 posted on 10/18/2023 11:36:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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This story is pure BS propaganda.


20 posted on 10/18/2023 11:37:50 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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