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Exxon made ‘breathtakingly’ accurate climate predictions in 1970s and 80s
guardian ^

Posted on 01/15/2023 3:45:14 PM PST by algore

The oil giant Exxon privately “predicted global warming correctly and skilfully” only to then spend decades publicly rubbishing such science in order to protect its core business, new research has found.

A trove of internal documents and research papers has previously established that Exxon knew of the dangers of global heating from at least the 1970s, with other oil industry bodies knowing of the risk even earlier, from around the 1950s. They forcefully and successfully mobilized against the science to stymie any action to reduce fossil fuel use.

A new study, however, has made clear that Exxon’s scientists were uncannily accurate in their projections from the 1970s onwards, predicting an upward curve of global temperatures and carbon dioxide emissions that is close to matching what actually occurred as the world heated up at a pace not seen in millions of years.

Exxon scientists predicted there would be global heating of about 0.2C a decade due to the emissions of planet-heating gases from the burning of oil, coal and other fossil fuels. The new analysis, published in Science, finds that Exxon’s science was highly adept and the “projections were also consistent with, and at least as skillful as, those of independent academic and government models”.

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KEYWORDS: braindeadcultists; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; oldnews; reparations; searchworks; warming
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1 posted on 01/15/2023 3:45:14 PM PST by algore
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To: algore

If there is anyone who has not seen the fifty years of insanely wrong climate predictions, here they are:

https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/

The mass media always gets it wrong—totally wrong—stunningly wrong—and then they double down!


2 posted on 01/15/2023 3:48:01 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: algore

The shakedown of the energy industry has started.


3 posted on 01/15/2023 3:52:08 PM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: algore

In the 70s scientist we’re worried about another mini iceage and fossil fuel would be gone

Then it was we’ll all be dead by 2000 of food shortages.

Then it was global warming and ocean rises.

Now it’s climate change and we’ll all be dead in about 8 more years because the temperature is rising and oceans are rising and the polar ice caps are melting and we’re running out of food again.

To me it’s Sunday, we have plenty of fossil fuel, plenty of food but a shxtload of braindead climate cultist.


4 posted on 01/15/2023 3:53:03 PM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: algore

the 1970s the same 70’s where the TOP scientists said we were headed into the next ice age... those 70’s???


5 posted on 01/15/2023 3:54:26 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: algore

Nonsense. In the 1970s, global cooling was the leftist fear porn. It was on the news, in the papers, on magazine covers. Also, how can anyone “know” the future on the global climate? Even today with super computers all the climate models, all the them produce completely inaccurate results than never track the real results of the climate. Global warming did not even become a thing until the mid 1980s and that was only when the global cooling fear porn faded from reality.

Global warming / climate change - as in humans are the cause, is leftist false unproven science. CO2 is not warming the atmosphere which is then heating the sea. That is silly. Air does not have the energy content to warm the oceans. It is much more likely that underwater volcanoes are warming the ocean, which then adds water vapor to the atmosphere. The only real warming of the atmosphere is generally in the arctic and only in the winter. That is when a slight increase in water vapor works to change the temperature.


6 posted on 01/15/2023 3:54:45 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: cgbg

I remember, trust me.

Fortunately “Climate Change” encompasses the best of both fears.


7 posted on 01/15/2023 3:54:57 PM PST by algore
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To: algore

🐂 💩


8 posted on 01/15/2023 3:55:01 PM PST by Allegra
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To: algore

9 posted on 01/15/2023 3:55:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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“projections were also consistent with, and at least as skillful as, those of independent academic and government models”.

Hire them now, I double-dog dare you.


10 posted on 01/15/2023 3:56:02 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to se acure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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11 posted on 01/15/2023 3:56:30 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: algore
The solubility of CO2 in water is inversely proportional to temperature

Since CO2 is soluble in water and the oceans cover a majority of the Earth's surface, the oceans sequester more CO2 than any other CO2 sink.

Because of the inverse solubility of CO2 with temperature, the colder the oceans get, the more CO2 they can absorb.

Conversely, when the oceans get warmer, they expel CO2.

Atmospheric CO2 therefore follows global temperatures, it does not cause them.

You can see the yearly global atmospheric CO2 fluctuation as the oceans warm and cool with the seasons in the NOAA graph below.

The "settled science" that CO2 causes "climate change" is therefore criminal sophistry.

12 posted on 01/15/2023 3:57:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: wjcsux

Just like the cigarette industry.


13 posted on 01/15/2023 4:01:59 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: cgbg
Thank you for posting this. We keep being fed a lot of cr** again and again. No one knows the future...and unlike the weather, climate is pretty damn stable.

I'm 78...live in Upstate NY...Winters are cold. Summers are hot. Some are colder than others and some are warmer than others.

Frankly, I prefer global warming to global cooling.

And I'm not so ignorant that I believe that man can "cure" climate change. It is the epitome of scientific arrogance.

Gas cars are just fine and my gas heat is just fine...and my gas dryer is just fine. Just leave us alone.

And my dear government, stop the sh** with changing the clocks twice a year. It's absolutely stupid. Stay on Standard Time...which jives with our "body" time.

14 posted on 01/15/2023 4:03:34 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: algore

And I’ll bet they have just as much research from the same time period showing the exact opposite, with the intent of releasing later whichever set of information benefits them the most.


15 posted on 01/15/2023 4:03:52 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: algore

Has a study been done of the effect of a total disuse of fossil fuels on the welfare, or even survival chances, of mankind?
Can mankind even survive without the use of fossil fuels?


16 posted on 01/15/2023 4:03:57 PM PST by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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“Has a study been done of the effect of a total disuse of fossil fuels on the welfare, or even survival chances, of mankind?
Can mankind even survive without the use of fossil fuels?”

The answer to both is Yes.

And if we follow the guide stones we will certainly have an Utopia


17 posted on 01/15/2023 4:11:25 PM PST by algore
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To: algore

More accurate than the Guardian’s 2001 estimate about how much of Europe would be underwater by 2020, I’m sure.


18 posted on 01/15/2023 4:20:40 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: algore

cherry picking warning


19 posted on 01/15/2023 4:28:09 PM PST by sopo
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To: algore

Urban growth and CFC emission reduction (and global warming ozone destruction reduction) could be responsible for temperature increases.


20 posted on 01/15/2023 4:35:41 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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