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AP-NORC Poll: Most in US want stricter gun laws [barf]
Associated Press ^ | August 23, 2022 | Sara Burnett

Posted on 08/22/2022 10:06:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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With an estimated 300 million guns already in the US, how long would it take to deplete them if you outright outlawed them? 50 years? 100? Thus the stupidity of this approach.


21 posted on 08/23/2022 4:14:52 AM PDT by bennowens
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To: Olog-hai

“AP-NORC Poll: Most in US want stricter gun laws [barf]”

Why don’t the do the poll based on county? I’m sure 83% of the counties in the country would disagree with wanting stricter gun laws.


22 posted on 08/23/2022 4:41:32 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (DJT24)
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Reminds me of gun control initiative 676 in the state of Washington that was on the ballot in 1997.

The polls showed the voters in favor of it. The gun control people crowed about the polling results, only for it to go down in defeat at the ballot box.

“With about a month before the Nov. 4 election, supporters of the gun safety initiative in Washington were optimistic. Their polls showed 62 percent support for the measure, Initiative 676, which required trigger-locking devices on all handguns sold in the state and handgun safety licenses.

But voters rejected the initiative by 697,000 votes — 71 percent to 29 percent.”

https://library.cqpress.com/cqresearcher/document.php?id=cqresrre1997121905


23 posted on 08/23/2022 5:03:39 AM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: Olog-hai

From the same bunch...

https://apnorc.org/projects/the-american-public-views-the-spread-of-misinformation-as-a-major-problem/

Note the involvement of Pearson in the above.


24 posted on 08/23/2022 5:05:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Bingo.


25 posted on 08/23/2022 5:05:21 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Olog-hai
Believe it. How do you think the news were herded interested gettos and then allowed to go to a " better, safer place" on a packed train.

They out numbered the guards 100/1 but did nothing because most people care about one thing and one thing only.. themselves.. not enough of them were willing to charge the guards and possibly die to save others.

26 posted on 08/23/2022 5:21:01 AM PDT by Ikeon (My fellow americans would put you in shackles if it meant they could not be bothered for one day. )
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To: Olog-hai
The problem with gun control is that like climate change mitigation, it polls well and then loses at the ballot box.

Gun control (and climate change) proponents know this and that’s why they’re looking at ways to get around those pesky voters.

Look up “environmental, social, and corporate governance” scoring. That’s what’s coming.

27 posted on 08/23/2022 5:28:58 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Olog-hai

Please explain what you see as a red herring.


28 posted on 08/23/2022 6:26:55 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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There was certainly a time in this country when most Americans would have wanted limitations on Blacks, Jews or Mormons.
That sentence. Also, I question its veracity, but that’s off topic.
29 posted on 08/23/2022 7:11:13 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Ikeon

If you want to believe a college poll, it’s your funeral. Particularly one that claims to represent “half of Republicans”.


30 posted on 08/23/2022 7:13:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

And fifty two years ago these same groups were claiming that “Most people wanted registration of all firearms, and a ban on handguns!

Yet when actually put to a vote of the people the anti-gun radicals always lose.

They never cease.


31 posted on 08/23/2022 7:16:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Out of FB jail 36hours ago! For how long? Who knows?)
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👍


32 posted on 08/23/2022 7:53:42 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s completely on topic if you can read and follow simple logic. Since that’s easily open to reasonable question, I’ll explain.

The wishes of the majority are irrelevant in a republic if the question bring. Inside red are the inherent rights such as the second amendment.

I illustrated that point by referencing a time in this country, perhaps some time in the last hundred years ago when the majority of Americans would have easily wished to limit the rights of Blacks, Jews or Mormons. If you aren’t familiar with the way all three groups were hunted down, look it up.

My point is that even if a majority wants to limit the rights of a minority, it makes no difference. The second amendment is not subject to a majority vote.

I’m surprised that had to be explained to you.


33 posted on 08/23/2022 11:00:13 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: muir_redwoods

WADR, I see no correlation. And the notion that “a majority” are for having their own rights taken away by government is itself a false notion that the poll’s alleged results fabricated; it cannot be compared to anything, much less an asserted (rather than proven) notion of a majority of Americans having the will to take others’ rights away.

And why are you capitalizing “blacks”?


34 posted on 08/23/2022 11:42:44 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I explained it to you. I can’t understand it for you. Youve shown me it’s pointless to explain things to you.


35 posted on 08/23/2022 4:22:21 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: Olog-hai

🐂💩 Perhaps amongst respondents to the query. It’s almost like they don’t care what the fly over folks say.


36 posted on 08/24/2022 8:19:51 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Olog-hai
AP = Always Propaganda
37 posted on 09/06/2022 11:33:31 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: muir_redwoods

You explained nothing to me. You instead used a red herring and a supposition that has no evidence, not to mention stereotypes that the left uses (including capitalizing the word “black”).


38 posted on 09/06/2022 11:42:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Let me simply tell you that what you do think or say means less to me than what my beagle leaves in the back yard. Have I explained that adequately?


39 posted on 09/06/2022 6:25:10 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: muir_redwoods
No, as per what seems to be usual. Using logical fallacies is never an explanation, including your current one here (argumentum ad lapidem or emotional blanket dismissal).

I don’t regard it as “certain” that even in the past a majority of US citizens wanted to curtail the rights of blacks (lower case; the left capitalizes it), Jews, Mormons et al, so that is your red herring. And I certainly believe the alleged results of a poll conducted by the so-called National Opinion Research Center less, per the premise in the headline. Now what is true is that in both cases, government wanted to curtail such rights.
40 posted on 09/06/2022 9:32:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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