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Michigan diocese instructs priests to deny sacraments to LGBTQ people unless they have repented
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Posted on 12/09/2021 4:01:48 PM PST by algore

From the Diocese of Marquette: "A person who publicly identifies as a different gender than his or her biological sex or has attempted 'gender transitioning' may not be Baptized, Confirmed, or received into full communion in the Church, unless the person has repented...,” ’ James Martin shared in a post.

Martin followed up by arguing that transgender worshippers are not sinful because of their identity and should be embraced by the church.

‘It is not a sin to be transgender. Transgender people are beloved children of God struggling to understand their identity. They need to be accepted with "respect, compassion and sensitivity." As Cardinal Gregory told a trans person, "You belong to the heart of this church," ’ he added in a follow up tweet, referencing Cardinal Wilton Daniel Gregory, is an American prelate of the Catholic Church and the archbishop of Washington.

‘The Church teaches that persons experiencing feelings of same-sex attraction or gender dysphoria is not sinful, but freely acting upon them is,’ the diocese’s instructions read. “Experiencing feelings and desires that are not in accord with the true meaning and purpose of sexuality is not sinful. To commit a sin, we must know that something is wrong and freely choose to do it.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: degenerate; homofascism; jamesmartin; letsgofrancis; lgbfjb; lgbtq; sodomite
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Now, If they would include politicians
1 posted on 12/09/2021 4:01:48 PM PST by algore
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To: algore

Let’s go Francis!


2 posted on 12/09/2021 4:03:15 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: algore

faggots dont show up to church unless there’s a fashion show.


3 posted on 12/09/2021 4:10:49 PM PST by max americana (FIRED LEFTARD employees at our office every election since 2008 and enjoyed seeing them cry.)
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To: algore

unless the person has repented..


not a popular item of discussion ...............


4 posted on 12/09/2021 4:12:04 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: algore

What a horribly mixed message.


5 posted on 12/09/2021 4:21:37 PM PST by fwdude
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To: algore

LGBTQ = Lets Get Biden To Quit


6 posted on 12/09/2021 4:32:35 PM PST by vortigern
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To: algore

Wonder what this does to practicing gay priests.. we all; know there are some


7 posted on 12/09/2021 4:35:01 PM PST by Sonshinegirl
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To: algore

Thank God Jesus is returning. And he’s pissed.


8 posted on 12/09/2021 4:42:34 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: max americana

Love the sinner, hate the sin.

This priest ‘gets it’. Too bad that Jorge Mario Bergoglio (aka pope Francis) doesn’t get it.


9 posted on 12/09/2021 4:45:21 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: algore

Whats the over/under on when “fr” Martin is busted abusing boys or seminarians? That guy is sick and evil.


11 posted on 12/09/2021 5:24:12 PM PST by Pxzftrnqfrn
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To: algore

I don’t agree with much about Catholics but these guys are dead right.


12 posted on 12/09/2021 6:11:11 PM PST by cyclotic (I won't give up my FREEDOM for your FEAR)
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To: algore

What about us LGBFJB people?


13 posted on 12/09/2021 6:29:56 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

F off, newb.


14 posted on 12/09/2021 6:36:50 PM PST by workerbee (==)
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To: fwdude

“What a horribly mixed message.”

Why do you say that?

L


15 posted on 12/09/2021 6:38:41 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: fwdude

I don’t think so. Standard hate the sin, live the sinner stuff. Mixed messages are publicly saying homosexuality is a sin and then holding Rainbow worship. Or acknowledging abortion is a mortal sin and them yukking it up with the “Catholic” pols who found the butchers.


16 posted on 12/09/2021 6:39:49 PM PST by workerbee (==)
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Live the sinner = love the sinner

Found the butchers = fund the butchers


17 posted on 12/09/2021 6:41:02 PM PST by workerbee (==)
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Why do you say that?

“Martin followed up by arguing that transgender worshippers are not sinful because of their identity and should be embraced by the church.”

Anyone even remotely familiar with social justice activism would have no problem understanding that this statement will be interpreted as AFFIRMATION of homosexual sins. The Church’s follow-through is completely unlikely to address these as sins as crossdressers and sodomite continue to proudly embrace and express their sin unrepentantly within the Church. The RCC is famous for this sinful accommodation.

And it’s hard to see how “transgenders” can be depicted as “the heart of the Church” when they are denied the primary sacraments which DEFINE the heart of the Church. It is just wishy-washy word salad.

18 posted on 12/09/2021 7:02:26 PM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude

“The Church’s follow-through is completely unlikely to address these as sins as crossdressers and sodomite continue to proudly embrace and express their sin unrepentantly within the Church.”

This Priest, at least from my reading of it, seems to be following through. He’s explicitly denying them Communion if they act upon their proclivities. Am I incorrect in that? If I am please show me my error and I’ll acknowledge it.

Thanks.

L


19 posted on 12/09/2021 7:13:12 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

Your error is not understanding that these transgenders are depicted as “the heart of the Church” (Martin’s words), AS THEY ARE. there is no more powerful affirmation in their sins than that.

I’m not saying that they should be given the Sacraments (they definitely should not), but the follow up statements are just weasel words, which is my point. They are denied the sacraments which make them the church, just the same as if they were pagans outside of the Church.


20 posted on 12/09/2021 7:19:55 PM PST by fwdude
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