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Coronavirus digest: COVID nearly three times deadlier than flu
Deutsche Welle ^ | 12.18.2020 | kmm, jsi/sms (AP, AFP, dpa, Reuters)

Posted on 12/18/2020 10:26:04 AM PST by Olog-hai

The death rate among hospitalized coronavirus patients is almost three times higher than those with the flu, new research has found.

Researchers compared French national data for 89,530 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in March and April this year with 45,819 patients hospitalized with seasonal influenza between December 2018 and the end of February 2019.

Some 16.9% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients died during the period of study. This compares to a death rate of 5.8% among those with cases of influenza severe enough to require care in a hospital.

Researchers found that more patients with COVID-19 needed intensive care — 16.3% compared with 10.8% for influenza— while the average stay in intensive care was nearly twice as long at 15 days compared to eight days.

The research, published in the journal the Lancet Respiratory Medicine, contradicts US President Donald Trump and Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro who respectively likened the deadly virus to the flu and “a measly cold.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at dw.com ...


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KEYWORDS: chinavirus; covid19; fakenews; flu
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Sure, keep fudging those figures.
1 posted on 12/18/2020 10:26:04 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Probably not too far off. And the elderly who have not yet succumbed to the virus will be culled by the vaccine.


2 posted on 12/18/2020 10:27:44 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Olog-hai

“with COVID” not “because of COVID”


3 posted on 12/18/2020 10:27:48 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction (President-Elect Conjunction Junction)
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To: Olog-hai

Bovine Excrement!


4 posted on 12/18/2020 10:28:09 AM PST by EvilCapitalist (We must FIGHT, I repeat it sir, we must FIGHT! -Patrick Henry)
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To: Olog-hai

3 times a very small number is a very small number...

This is just fear mongering.


5 posted on 12/18/2020 10:29:07 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Olog-hai

What flu? COVID19 eradicated all strains of flu.


6 posted on 12/18/2020 10:29:19 AM PST by Baldwin
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To: Olog-hai

Sure, it’s deadlier if you’re already old and sick. For the young, it’s the weak sister.


7 posted on 12/18/2020 10:30:04 AM PST by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Olog-hai

So, it’s a bad flu.


8 posted on 12/18/2020 10:30:56 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Olog-hai

Look at the total number of deaths each year. For the US, I have looked at total number of deaths by year starting in 2010. The 2020 deaths through mid-December are not different from any of the previous years. If there was an extra 200k deaths, it would be shown in the overall death number. It simply is not there.

As for hospitalization rates, I would love to see something similar - total number of ICU beds available by year, and percent utilized. I would strongly bet there cannot be seen in the numbers any uptick. Same as deaths.


9 posted on 12/18/2020 10:31:04 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Olog-hai

It stands to reason that a new disease would have a higher mortality rate than diseases that have been around forever and for which vaccines have long been available. And it looks like this study relied on data from last spring, when the mortality rate was higher than it is now.


10 posted on 12/18/2020 10:31:53 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Olog-hai

Utter garbage.


11 posted on 12/18/2020 10:31:56 AM PST by MGunny ( )
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To: HamiltonJay
It is just criminal in every sense of the word what politicians, unelected bureaucrats and, of course, "the experts" have done to Americans over the past year ... especially the physical harm and psychological abuse they have inflicted -- intentionally caused -- to America's children.
12 posted on 12/18/2020 10:32:07 AM PST by glennaro (“I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.”)
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To: Olog-hai

Totally bogus numbers.


13 posted on 12/18/2020 10:32:24 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Olog-hai

my 98-year-old mother was admitted to the hospital late Sunday night and died 5 hours later early Monday morning. She had a long history of congestive heart failure and afib. The doctor said he thought she died of a heart attack because her blood test showed that her heart-related enzymes were out of whack. He also said she tested positive for COVID when she was admitted. My bet is that she’ll be added to the COVID death toll.


14 posted on 12/18/2020 10:32:30 AM PST by euram
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To: Olog-hai

When I saw that the study relied on old data, and made a point of criticizing Trump and Bolsonaro, my BS meter went wild.


15 posted on 12/18/2020 10:33:48 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: glennaro

The legislatures have to own this crap.. granting executives authority without oversight... always equals abuse.

Pa And Mi are perfect examples... no check at all on what their governors can do once the laws are triggered


16 posted on 12/18/2020 10:35:22 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: glennaro

Yesterday I stopped at a Barnes & Noble on my way to a doctor appointment (I was way early because the traffic was lighter than I thought it would be). I selected two magazines, and slipped them under the plexiglass barrier to the female clerk. She scanned the top magazine and then asked me to move it aside so she should scan the other one. That’s how paranoid some people have become.


17 posted on 12/18/2020 10:37:29 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: euram

I’m sorry for your loss of a parent, but 98 really is a good run, I suppose, if she had not been suffering terribly toward the end.


18 posted on 12/18/2020 10:38:32 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: rigelkentaurus

Do you have a link? Last time I tried CDC was making the data to calculate “excess deaths” hard to access.


19 posted on 12/18/2020 10:40:18 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Olog-hai

LOL!


20 posted on 12/18/2020 10:40:46 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow,)
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