Posted on 09/23/2019 2:07:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
In one corner, we have Ivanka Trump and Attorney General William Barr. And in the other, we have Donald Trump Jr.
These are the two sides warring for Trump's favor in an ongoing debate over gun restrictions, Politico reports. Ivanka Trump's faction is reportedly looking for increased restrictions on gun sales and stronger background checks, while Donald Trump Jr.'s is warning him against it but neither side seems to have curried the president's favor just yet.
As more and more mass shootings make headlines, and as gun violence continues to be an epidemic across the U.S., two sides have formed in the White House. Ivanka Trump and Attorney General William Barr both insist Trump can institute "expanded background checks for gun sales" and "win back moderate suburban voters in the process," people involved in the discussions tell Politico. Donald Trump Jr., along with a top aide to acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, meanwhile say Trump will lose his conservative base if he "pushes too aggressively on new gun control legislation," Politico reports. It has all amounted in absolute gridlock within the White House, with Trump reportedly staying mum on what side he prefers.
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Someone needs to tell sweet t*ts that we didnt elect her for anything and that while shes hot we dont care what she thinks.
Want to go home a LOSER after the 2020 election? Then throw in with the Left, with the very Deep State that is trying to kill your Presidency. Otherwise, try sticking with your promises to your voters, and your oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Yeah that is the most ignorant statement ever. You go in on gun registration, and we’ll vote for the left by staying at home so they can completely take away the 2nd Amendment! Yeah that’ll show you...as they are rounding up my family, putting us in boxcars and leading us to the showers!
...gun violence continues to be an epidemic across the U.S...
The “tell” that this article is BS.
It is gossip and it should be treated as such.
That may be true but Ivanka's attitude on the subject looks like it changed after the Las Vegas shooting when she tweeted out this vapid comment:
"America woke up this morning to the horrific news of a devastating mass shooting in Las Vegas" and the left beat her, deservedly, without mercy.
She had no business opening a pathway to a Constitutional battle in a way that would provide a high ground ambush for the communist left. She sounded like that Ocasio idiot.
It's a matter of record she's gotten more pro gun control since then.
“President Trump will lose a lot of support if he goes in big for gun control”
Trump will lose period ... if he supports any ‘gun control” legislation.
The spouses of Presidents should NOT be interfering with policy decisions.
Trump should send her on a world tour or something.
Prada yes. 2nd, NO!
If she’s smart, she should go back to doing whatever she’s smart at. This ain’t it.
No disagreement at all.
Its like Noam Chomsky was one of the most brilliant linguist in the world.
But he strays from his actual expertise and shows his rear.
Politico trying to sow dissension....concern trolls affected most.
She’s his daughter, not his wife.
I agree that neither should interfere in policy decisions.
Will not play well in the South. It would be a terrible mistake.
“Yeah that is the most ignorant statement ever. “
No, not ignorant. Informed by History itself.
First, if registration is put in place, we are finished. This has been proven in many other nations that implemented registration, even if in an effort to disarm extremists. It simply won’t matter whether Trump wins in 2020, or even if Pence (or some other Republican) wins in 2024 and 2028. Some time in the future, you WILL have a Dem in the WH, and a Dem-controlled House and Senate. Then, as sure as the sun rising in the East every day, you WILL have a confiscation order. Oh, it’ll be couched as a “buyback,” and there’ll be an amnesty period. Perhaps even an actual amnesty or 2 down the line, but at some point people will be jailed (or murdered on raids) for failing to turn in firearms that the registration system says that they own.
My whole point in saying that I won’t vote for someone who will compromise my rights (and those of everyone else in society) is to convince him and his advisors NOT TO DO THIS. By voting for someone who diminishes your rights, just because the other side is worse, you are guaranteeing that you will someday no longer have those rights, whatever they may be. In this case, it is the most vital of rights - that which enables any person to defend themselves, their family, their nation and their liberties.
You do see, don’t you, how the other side (and even many supposedly on OUR side) have complete contempt for us (deplorables), and how they run roughshod over our rights, how they ignore our plain wishes - and this with 500 million firearms in the hands of the public? Well, given that, how exactly do you think that these people will treat us once there are few or none in public hands? Do you think that they will be more tolerant, kinder, less likely to force their policies down our throats?
Oh, and if you think that “taking away all of the guns” is a distopian fantasy, let me just tell you that my family has direct experience with that over the last 100 years. My paternal grandfather’s father, who lived in what is now Ukraine, had everything he owned except his home taken away by the Communists in the early 1920s. Then, in 1936 and 1937, this man in his 70s who was suffering from cancer had the gall to rent out 3/4 of his home to 3 other families in order to have money to put food on the table - money that he was then unable to earn. So the NKVD dragged him to jail and beat him mercilessly on several occasions - the last one of which was so severe that it killed him. Five years later, over 100 of my extended family in Poland were murdered by German Leftists (AKA Nazis). None of them had guns - because the government had a list of everyone who previously did have guns, and took them away from everyone who wasn’t a Party member.
Confiscation is impossible without the prerequisite of registration. That is what I am fighting against, but any and all means.
THIS is the Rubicon for our Republic - either we stop registration in its tracks, or the death of our Republic (and many millions of your fellow citizens) will inevitably follow. Threatening a politician with not voting for him if he puts us on that path - however unwittingly or unintentionally - is the height of rationality.
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.
-Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Let’s have a world in which no Americans are put in camps for their political views or for owning what every previous generation of Americans owned. The only way to stop that from happening is to ACTUALLY stop it - and defeating the “universal background check” and “red flag” laws is critical to success in this endeavor.
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