Posted on 11/08/2018 11:18:27 AM PST by Paladin2
“This should be fun.”
OK, I’ll bite. I have been a Sessions supporter, or rather,
an outspoken non-basher.
But for me, it was never about “the plan”, or 4d chess. And I never bought into “Q”, Huber, or hundreds of sealed indictments.
It was simply that I couldn’t imagine a guy like Sessions effectively c@ck-blocking a guy like Trump all these months, even if he wanted to.
Even if Sessions was deep state, or compromised, (which I highly doubt), or a coward (which I highly doubt), it just seems impossible that Trump would allow him to single handedly derail his Presidency, as alleged by the Sessions haters.
Another argument that I always thought was doubtful was the idea that Sessions’ recusal was a surprise to Trump. I’m not buying it. As I recall, the question of whether Sessions would recuse himself received a great deal of focus in his confirmation hearings - how could Trump have missed that? And I’m not buying that Trump was afraid of some RINO senators either.
So what that left for me was the conclusion that Trump himself was calling all the shots - regarding both the DOJ’s hands-off policy toward ending the Mueller witch hunt, and the DOJ’s hands-off policy toward prosecuting top ex-Obama administration officials for SpyGate crimes.
It seems to me that it is Trump himself who decided to take the passive route in both of these areas, tolerating the Mueller witch hunt, and declining to go after Obama minions. Trump just doesn’t strike me as the type of POTUS who allows terms to be dictated to him by an underling - and a mild mannered one at that.
The way I rationalized Trump’s passivity was not some 4D chess Art of the Deal scheme - it was simply that he knew he was innocent of any Russia collusion and that being transparent and submitting to the probe could only exonerate him and generate good will. Conversely, he knew that locking up leaders of the opposition party would only create political martyrs, who would soon be pardoned anyway.
If I’m wrong about all of this, the new AG will quickly fire Mueller and hand down indictments to top Democrats involved in SpyGate. If I’m right, we will see more of the same in a post-Sessions Trump administration - namely, Trump focusing on MAGA, not RussiaGate or SpyGate.
The only part of all this that bothers me is the idea that Trump could allow Sessions to take the blame for being “too passive”, if it was his decision to do so. If Trump used Sessions as a scapegoat to appease his most ardent “lock her up” supporters, then I hope for Jeff Sessions’ sake it all comes out in the open one day.
So, the President has been lying about it all this time?
Got it.
Seems to me that it’s obvious that sessions supported Trump early and asked to be DOJ as an insurance policy for the GOPe.
“So, the President has been lying about it all this time?”
Sheesh
This is why the Bush Family and many of their $$$ supporters decided to actively oppose Trump. The Bush connections to the CIA leaked the info to them.
Sessions decided to slow walk the investigation to make sure we didn't loose the Senate and his friends.
If you think about it, this seems like a highly more likely scenario than any proposed by "Q"
Sundance was also one of the earliest online Trump supporters...he was outlining the establishment plan to nominate Jeb Bush using the 'splitter' strategy even before Trump entered the race.
Really not a good look to hate on someone so closely aligned to the MAGA movement.
Well, if your religion has been attacked as utter nonsense it tends to bring out the worst in people.
They’ve already justified this Session thing.
Sessions’ job is done. He has things all set up for Whitaker and Huber to take out the deep state.
I kid you not. It was on the FR/Q thread this morning.
Add to that, maybe bad advice from Javanka.
That I will believe when I see it.
Yeah there are a few, very few old school southern lawyers like that. I respect Sessions for his demeanor and civility but he was not up to dealing with the deep state, et. al. . Aside from the loyalty and campaign assistance that Sessions provided to Trump, why did the President choose the Senator in the first place?
“We need someone suited to the times ahead - someone with a more combative disposition.”
Well? Answer the question.
Has the President been lying to us about his disappointment with eff Sessions all this time?
Because Sessions told Trump he wanted the job and Trump believed that Sessions was going to do the job.
Two years later...
I was worried about Y2K, too. But nothing quit.
Bttt.
5.56mm
“Well? Answer the question.”
No I’m not playing your game - it’s a disingenuous question.
You know perfectly well I don’t think Trump is a liar. And you also know perfectly well that Trump is in politics and his public statements are tailored for many audiences, including his enemies. He postures and trolls and uses guile and misinformation to his advantage, just like any other public figure. That doesn’t make him a liar.
So knock it off with this attempted “gotcha” BS.
Yeah, that makes sense.
But I’m still not convinced Trump wanted to go after these Obama era crooks either - even though they surely deserve life behind bars.
I think Trump sees it as a choice, either he makes his Presidency about the past - going after ghosts of the prior administration, or he makes it about the future - MAGA - but not both.
I think he’s chosen MAGA - if I’m right, the new AG will down play SpyGate just as Sessions did - he will drain the swamp as it now exists, but decline to go after Obama’s minions - and he’ll be another big disappointment to people who see that as the priority.
If Im wrong, I guess Obama will get thrown in jail along with just about his entire cabinet - because you know they were all involved.
I just doubt Trump wants to go there.
We shall see.
I think Trump was unaware of the recusal when he nominated Sessions. After that horse left the barn and was soon found lame, it was too late for a do-over.
Plus Sessions wasn't really intent on cleaning the stables at the DoJustUs and totally fell in with the DOJ bureaucrats who gave him all the reasons why it was ethically imperative that he recuse. Plus Sessions is not a fighter against his recent Senate peers. [H->! for example]
You mean it's not?
Dang, you destroyed my day......
/s
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