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'Cheap sex' is making men give up on marriage
NY Post ^ | September 2, 2017 | Larry Getlan

Posted on 09/03/2017 11:34:00 AM PDT by EdnaMode

Thanks to cheap sex, marriage may be doomed.

The share of Americans ages 25-34 who are married dropped 13 percentage points from 2000 to 2014. A new book by sociologist Mark Regnerus blames this declining rate on how easy it is for men to get off.

Regnerus calls it “cheap sex,” an economic term meant to describe sex that has very little cost in terms of time or emotional investment, giving it little value.

Regnerus bases his ideas, in part, on the work of British social theorist Anthony Giddens, who argued that the pill isolated sex from marriage and children. Add online pornography and dating sites to the mix and you don’t even need relationships.

The result is “two overlapping (but distinctive) markets, one for sex and one for marriage, with a rather large territory in between comprised of significant relationships of varying commitment and duration,” Regnerus writes in “Cheap Sex: The Transformation of Men, Marriage, and Monogamy” (Oxford University Press).

In generations past, women generally made men wait until marriage to have sex. To get a wife (and, therefore, sex), men had to be clean and presentable and have a good job. This, Regnerus reasons, gave men all the motivation they needed to become respectable members of society.

Now with porn on-demand and greater reproductive freedom, sex is a commodity available at any time. This has left men with little motivation for marriage, writes Regnerus, who cites demographer Steven Ruggles’ prediction that one of every three people in their 20s will never marry.

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KEYWORDS: loserman; marriage; men; mgtow; promiscuity; pua; redpill
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To: wardaddy

When the feminists stop pushing gals to be more than they’re designed to be....and take back their own life....they just might quickly find what naturally comes to a woman is very satisfying...!

You said it Wardaddy....and it’s not complicated! In a nutshell...

Woman want.....Security and to listen to them.
Men want sex, to be loved and loyalty. (and respect)

Simple.


461 posted on 09/04/2017 10:05:28 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww; wardaddy

“Woman want.....Security and to listen to them.
Men want sex, to be loved and loyalty. (and respect)”

Mother always told me to ask men about themselves, but to listen and to pay attention. I’ve found that to be true. You could call that a large part of respect, could you not?


462 posted on 09/04/2017 10:37:07 AM PDT by Darnright (If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. Anatole France)
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To: kearnyirish2

There are Sephardic Jews in Mexico whose ancestors came from Spain to get away from forced conversion in the 16th century-and some people in parts of Brazil speak a Portuguese dialect-odd remnants of a past time-like the people with German looks and surnames in Argentina and parts of Mexico, Central and S America-it is like a bunch of Nazis were assimilated by the Borg...


463 posted on 09/04/2017 11:30:21 AM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: miss marmelstein; wardaddy

“LOL! E-Harmony founder would commit suicide if this was the caliber of people looking for a wife!”

Now that is funny-and likely the truth...

This thread is even more of a trip today than it was last night-when my guy called from work this AM, I read some of the more ah-interesting posts-he really got a kick out of the ones that implied he was metro because he doesn’t “chastise” or “discipline” me-he really didn’t see that as a good thing at all. He won’t admit to ever knowing a woman who wanted a spanky, either-he’s been with a lot of women since I first met him 40+ years ago, so I’m guessing that is not all that common-I’ve certainly never known a female who liked that, or a guy who was into doing it-I’ve heard some pretty interesting things on jobsites, but never that...


464 posted on 09/04/2017 12:27:00 PM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

hot women run it all

We only do what they want

And it runs a much wider gamut than you’re liable find admitted to here

I’ve had a lot of experience worldwide

It’s the woman’s call trust me

I don’t know about discipline for wives but if it’s applied it’s because it was wanted

Unless it’s forced

It is an attractive woman’s world

Feminism is the province of women who can’t attract much


465 posted on 09/04/2017 12:58:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: Texan5

My favorite post was the guy whose son was taken to the cleaners by his ex-wife...sort of as an aside, he says the son “committed an indiscretion.” YEAH, BABY! He cheated on his wife after taking a vow not to! You cannot make this stuff up. There’s another thread on the same topic but I wouldn’t bother taking up the bait. A lot of these guys truly hate wimmin.


466 posted on 09/04/2017 1:13:51 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: wardaddy

Well, I wasn’t born beautiful, but I take pride in my appearance, stay fit and I’ve never been called unattractive or had a problem getting a man-today’s “feminists” keep using that word but I don’t think they have any idea what it really means-they are not feminists in any way because they insist on being more than equal-I think the feminist movement was taken over by feminazis at least 40 years ago-it isn’t about equal pay, it is about being a bitch and not being held to account for it-I don’t like women like that-it is why I work with men, and most of my friends are men...


467 posted on 09/04/2017 1:14:16 PM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: miss marmelstein
Well,most of it is not woman bashing, but I can see where some of these Red pillers have devolved into bitterness. Thats is not what this is about.

Regardless, entering into a marriage is not what it used to be; the courts are heavily favored towards women and the divorce rate is high. It has made men question whether its logical to enter into a state binding agreement where they will be penalized. The book "Men on Strike" is a good anecdotal book on how over time men have opted out of marriage and other former expectational norms.

Now I am divorced and date in one of the places to find good women; Washington DC. The liberal wackjobbery here permeates everything.

468 posted on 09/04/2017 1:15:39 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Architect of Paradise

If not gay themselves!


469 posted on 09/04/2017 1:18:12 PM PDT by Reily
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To: KC_Conspirator

All I know, is this thread makes me happy I don’t know most of the guys here and that I’ve got a fantastic man at home who I love more than anything on earth. He is my life.


470 posted on 09/04/2017 1:18:23 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: DakotaGator
No. American men are giving up on marriage because the risks outweigh the benefits. Basically American women bring noting to marriage but misery, and are rewarded with an easy on-demand divorce with endless payments from the ex-husband. That is what young American men perceive.

Well said, the results are just a logical reaction.

471 posted on 09/04/2017 1:20:28 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Texan5

The early feminists

Basically

Fabians

Suffragettes

Bored suburban Jewish housewives and malcontents

Now it’s sadly rather ubiquitous even in flyoverland

I think it’s our most destructive cultural decay besides the Celine of Christian belief

It’s enabled so much


472 posted on 09/04/2017 1:25:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Oh that is now becoming more the truth - fat acceptance is being pushed on American women, along with ugly tattoos and lack of hygiene.


473 posted on 09/04/2017 1:26:06 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Texan5

Speaking of discipline and cultural relativity

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3583103/postsP


474 posted on 09/04/2017 1:26:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: miss marmelstein

I think a lot of these sour guys have been so totally trashed they have high heel prints all over their asses and just can’t get past it-so they blame/hate women-my case manager self says they would benefit from some sessions with a good psychotherapist-it might assist them in working through all that so they could eventually get past the bitterness and resentment-but that is just my opinion...

I liked that post, too-my 1st hubby-may he rest in peace-considered his mid-life cheating just “an indiscretion”, and never understood why I was appalled and pissed off enough to end the marriage after so long-but if I’d done such a thing, he’d likely have had me whipped in public and put into the stocks-we were equals until he decided that part of the vows about being faithful were only for me...


475 posted on 09/04/2017 1:29:40 PM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: wardaddy

The article isn’t there any more-speak to me-what was it about?


476 posted on 09/04/2017 1:33:31 PM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

Oh, that’s too bad! But it seems your second husband is a prize. I’m my husband’s second wife. My husband has never, ever spoken ill of his first wife - he considers it low class and common.

There are two threads up at the moment: one of a husband murdering his wife and one about an Indian immigrant arrested for beating his wife (disciplining her as they say here). Then the sour guys wonder why some women divorce! Yeah, usually before the guy reaches for the gun, knife or poison!

Fun talking to you.


477 posted on 09/04/2017 1:34:50 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Hate to admit it, Miss Marmelstein, but LOL!


478 posted on 09/04/2017 1:36:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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To: BJ1

LOL! Yes, there are other conditions that need to answered; its not the job that men are most concerned about.


479 posted on 09/04/2017 1:36:56 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: miss marmelstein

That should be your tag line!!


480 posted on 09/04/2017 1:38:27 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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