Posted on 03/08/2014 6:07:03 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome
So when did Ann's and Obama Sr.'s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama's biographers over the wedding date:
1. Dreams claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were in married "in 1960"; similarly, Mendell's 2007 book claims that the couple were married "sometime in late 1960" when they "slipped off alone to the island of Maui"; and both Obamaland (2008) by Ron Jacobs (with contributor David Maraniss) and a 2007 Washington Post article claim that the two were married "late in 1960."
2. A 2007 Chicago Tribune article vaguely claims that Ann and Obama Sr. were married "six months before" Barack's birth on Aug 4, 1961 -- or, in other words, sometime in early 1961.
3. An April 2008 Time article by Amanda Ripley, as does Maraniss's August 2008 article, gives a specific date of February 2, 1961 for the wedding, apparently based on Ann's and Obama Sr.'s 1964 divorce records – mysteriously appearing on the web. But since fake documents have been known to appear on the web, Obama's biographers, Ripley and Maraniss, might want to verify the 1964 divorce documents – especially since a Feb. 2, 1961 marriage date for "Ann and Obama Sr." wasn't reported in any Honolulu Advertiser or Honolulu Star-Bulletin marriage lists from February 1961. Take the February 8, 1961 Star-Bulletin, which listed eighteen marriages from Feb. 3, Feb. 4, and Feb. 6, and no Feb. 2 marriages, and the February 7, 1961 Advertiser, which listed eleven marriages from Feb. 2 to 4, including two Feb. 2 marriages.
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Brother David
Ruth's other son, David, supposedly died (cough) in 1987 right before little Barry went to Kenya and freaked out the village neighbor thinking he was David.
So, did David not have a legal claim to Senior's assets nor did he pursue it?
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Cute...the following is only ONE of several reports out of Kenya which state zero was there in 1983:
It was during that visit that he was pictured helping Sarah to sell vegetables...
Someone has been playing with that picture. The floating hand used to not be that huge and neither was o’s. Ignore it.
There’s gossip and there’s gossip, two totally different kinds. One serves what you want to hear, and the other doesn’t. You have to learn how to pick and choose, because if you don’t, you have to read all the articles and reports and go though all the documents you can find, and that takes time and effort.
Cherry-picking through gossip is quicker and a whole lot less trouble.
Only problem with that is, when it comes to debate, selective gossip is all you’ve got and it doesn’t wash. It ends up as he said she said, lots of animousity and reports of abuse to the poor overworked mods.
You learn something every day here, I didn’t know squirrels eat tomatoes!
The story actually begins about fifty years ago, when Barack Obama Senior, uh, went to Hawaii, as a, as a, a student and met Sally Ann Dunham, and shortly after that conceived Barack. A few years later, they divorced and, uh, he met my mother (pauses, utters “whi”) Ruth Baker, when she was at Harvard Universi, uh, uh, at Harvard. And, uh, shortly after that they went back to Kenya, uh, where I was conceived. We’re both, uh, we both have white mother, uh, white American mothers; we’re both Americans; uh, we’re both multi-r, uh, mixed race; uh, we also went to, uh, we’re also born just a few years apart; and we have a lot of similarities and also a lot of differences.
I think you are probably on the right track, the idea being, let’s throw a couple of photographs at them and really confuse the issue. Only this time, there aren’t any names.
Wow. What a strange story at the link. A school that contains the first two letters of three boys; two of which there is no evidence for their existence. Would be interesting if there was contemporaneous evidence of the name of this kidnergarten but I am sure there isn’t.
Everyone even slightly connected with the “Who is Zero, really?” story is a sort of shapeshifter.
Mark Ndesandjo was born in 1965. Joseph Ndesandjo was born in 1980. There is not a 15 yr age gap between the two boys on the cover of Mark’s book. They are Mark and David.
Someone’s trying to misdirect you again.
Richard was born in 1976 and Joseph was born in 1979.
The father of those two boys was Simeon Ndesandjo of Tanzania.
number one has the same facial shape.
The Bantu tribes tend to have broader faces and foreheads, the Luo and the subsaharan tribes tend to be very thin and long...including long fingers and limbs. I once suggested that Obama had Marfan’s syndrome until someone pointed out his father was not Bantu like my patients in Africa...
The same facial shape as who?
And it’s all quite pointless, there are no names on that book cover, the two boys could be anyone. The photographs aren’t dated. It’s look over here and let me distract you time again.
But now you have another problem, 'David' was supposedly born in September 1967 and Mark in November 1965, so that's less that two years between them.
I can't imagine why anyone would believe that the boy on the cover in any way resembles the dark boy in the family group, and then you have the problem where does that polynesian-looking boy fit? He's the one that Malik is using an image of on The Obama Foundation website but with entirely different yeardates for birth and death:
I'm admitting I'm totally confused, which is exactly what the purpose is. And now we have a Richard? I knew about that and thought it was a joke. MA DA RI probably means you silly white people in swahili.
BARACK OBAMA SR. THE RISE AND LIFE OF A TRUE AFRICAN SCHOLAR.
I can only assume that those invested in hiding Zero’s identity are putting all these photos out. Varying birth dates, names that seem to belong to ghosts - what’s next? A long lost somebody or other appearing on the scene all grown up? (who of course remembers little Zero and SAD?)
Someone should ask Malik about his childhood in Kenya, growing up with little Barack and playing with him.
You should be very grateful that FR allows you free rein to expound this crazy theory. No other respectable, mainstream site tolerates it. You can’t find a single credentialed investigator or researcher who embraces it. You haven’t turned up one single person who knew Mark Ndesandjo growing up who questions David’s existence. Not one. You claim extraordinary insight into the identification of online photos, but your recent spectacular misidentifications undercut that claim.
You’ve never been to Kenya. You’ve never interviewed a single person who knew Mark and/or the Ndesandjos during the years of David’s life. You refuse even to initiate email contact with anyone who knew David. It’s as if you know your theory can only exist in the fact free realm of online speculation. Any contact with real people who knew David in life would destroy it forever.
Not even TheObamaFile takes your theory seriously. FR is the only place on the entire Net, apart from a couple of NeoNazi-type freak sites, that allows this theory to be propounded...year after year. One hopes you are adequately grateful.
Oh, and even on FR, your ‘success’ depends on having an ever nasty henchman ready to attack anyone who disagrees with you. For some reason this is tolerated. But attacking personally anyone with an opposing view is not the same as winning an argument. It’s just strong arm bullying that a more respectable theorist would be ashamed to sanction.
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