Posted on 02/25/2013 9:25:42 PM PST by Seizethecarp
Today, I had a conversation with an investigator from the Cold Case Posse in AZ. We talked and I expanded on several dossiers filled with evidence for over an hour. They asked for all of my relevant information on Obama, the Harry Bounel alias evidence, and the dossiers I completed on Stanley Ann Dunham, her parents, and Michelle Obama as well. They have it all. BTW they also say that it looks like my information cannot be disproved and will be useful.
I have proof, definitive proof that Stanley Ann Dunham was in WA state in "1961" as per the issuance of a SSN numident in her name with the SSN 535-40-8522. There is no way that she was in HI and I have proof because in the fall she was in college in WA, not HI.
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What tangent?? You posted the pictures that support my point. I haven't strayed from that. Again, ANYONE can do what I did and see for themselves.
You've simply exposed yourself for having photoshopped an image to further the ridiculous contention that Stanley Ann Dunham posed nude for photographs which were published in 1958 when she was still in high school.
I took TWO photos that YOU provided and simply laid one on top of the other and changed the opacity to try to see where the faces differed. The problem was that they did NOT show a compelling difference. The conclusion is undeniable. You can speculate all you want about how old she was in various photos, but the bottom line is that the faces in the photos line up perfectly. It is the same woman in both photos. I haven't made any statements beyond that as to what it means in terms of any alternate birth scenarios because the pictures don't prove anything about how Obama was born or who the father was. It is what it is and these pictures are of the same woman. It's time to quit denying the obvious and it's definitely time to quit acting like a drama queen.
Wait just a minute.
You may be surprised to learn I'm in the MalVal camp, and you already know I'm not a communist sympathizer.
A few freepers have information you don't have, and they want to verify all information before releasing it.
Fair enough?
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you were ZOTTED for a reason!
“But you really should have given DrRJP credit for the title”
As many times as I have posted the link to my vanity you have failed to notice that I linked the thread to Dr Polland’s Mal and Val morphing video? Really?
Here is my vanity again with my link to the video and the opening paragraphs inviting reasoned discussion of evidence:
Re:”Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man” Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama’s mom? (vanity)
Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8
Posted on Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:18:33 PM by Seizethecarp
“Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982.” Dr. Ron J. Polland
The Mal-Val youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named Val into an image of Obama, he insinuates that Val is Obamas mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, Val, in Polariks Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obamas mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
I never said that you or FN were communist sympathizers. I just asked whether they were because they were mocking me for suggesting that a communist cell in HI might have financed Stanley Ann’s trip to Kenya. In effect, they were defending an HI communist cell with Alinski-style mockery.
It is very empowering to believe that only a select few have “secret knowledge.” This is the signature trait of all cults. But after the 2012 election when no secret Mal-Val information about Barry’s identity became public in time to derail his reelection, “that dog won’t hunt.”
I have a credential in forensic investigation and I regard the Mal-Val narrative to be lacking basic logic and any supporting evidence at numerous points.
Just look at the comment that FN just put up where he tries to explain once again (after denying repeatedly that he had anything to do with the Mal-Val narrative) how the two baby Baracks were swapped in 1964! It is flat-out delusional and requires a vast CT on at least three continents to have occurred. There is zero evidence in favor of this swap and tons of evidence starting with the INS FOIA docs that Stanley Ann was Barry’s mom and had him in her custody starting in 1961, not 1964.
Are you going to tell me that you believe that the INS FOIA docs are forged? Those docs destroy Barry’s dad’s reputation and Barry’s life narrative in “Dreams.”
but seizethecrap believes that communist Frank Marshall Davis impregnated the daughter of his friend Stanley Armour Dunham who was a KGB agent and sent her to Kenya to have the baby with the help of his other friend Barack Obama, using money from his wife.
“Baby Barry IS baby David. They had to call him something else because you can’t have TWO Barack Hussein Obama’s, one in Kenya and one in Hawaii. And David goes so nicely with Mark. The kenyan student took his son back to Kenya with him in 1964...and presto, that’s when little zero makes his entrance.”
Now after all of your denials, accusations and name-calling you openly push the key Mal-Val narrative moment when the child of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf is inserted into HI in 1964 into the care of Stanley Ann and at the same time the true child of BHO Sr. (pictured in your comment) is stripped of his name and spirited out of HI and back to Kenya where he grows up to be Roman Obama.
But somehow these two boys as you have identified them appear in several pictures IN KENYA with BHO Sr. and Ruth!
How is it that the son of Malcolm X is turned over to SADO in HI in 1964 but appears in a picture with Roman, BHO Sr. and Ruth in Kenya?
Of course you have misidentified the boys who are Mark and David and the pictures were circa 1970.
Prior to the great baby Barack swap in 1964, the Baby who grows up to be Roman was supposedly born in Kenya but then his mother appears as Anne in HI with BHO Sr. and then she turns up as Anna with Roman (still named Barack) in Seattle in January 1961 a year before SADO (whom you claim was never there) but then Anne/Anna disappears or goes to the Philippines and he gets taken back to god knows where before going back to Kenya with BHO Sr. and/or Ruth in 1964...and there is zero documentary evidence for any of this.
This is what is called an incoherent narrative which has zero probability of having occurred. No way!
Oh, the off-hand hearsay comments of Malik in Kenya about “growing up” with a Barack in Kenya have no forensic value, and no one knows how many times or when Barry went to Kenya, so POTUS Barry could have been there at any time.
As far as I know there is zero evidence that Roman Obama has any association with the Kenyan Obamas or has ever been to Kenya, HI, or WA. And Roman Obama doesn’t look the least bit mixed race. He looks 100% African to me.
Yes, I believe they are forged. Barry's entire life is a myth, a made-up story enabled and perpetuated by vast amounts of money from entities wanting to destroy the United States of America. This has been many years in the making.
“but seizethecrap believes that communist Frank Marshall Davis impregnated the daughter of his friend Stanley Armour Dunham who was a KGB agent and sent her to Kenya to have the baby with the help of his other friend Barack Obama, using money from his wife.”
Wrong.
Some FReepers were claiming that neither BHO Sr. nor SADO could have afforded a trip to Kenya in 1961. I was offering several possible explanations of how a trip by SADO to Kenya could have been funded.
I lean strongly towards BHO Sr. being Barry’s dad because of the INS FOIA doc and because his half-brother David looks so much like him!
“and you believe that communist Frank Marshall Davis impregnated the daughter of his friend Stanley Armour Dunham who was a KGB agent and sent her to Kenya to have the baby with the help of his other friend Barack Obama, using money from his wife?”
Wrong.
FMD is a documented KGB asset and S Armour Dunham is at a minimum a fellow traveler with a huge FBI file. Either one of them could have had means, motive and opportunity to pack SADO off to Kenya to hide the problem pregnancy out of sight and BTW tell her to stay out of HI as long as possible which she did not returning until fall of 1962.
The money could have come from the KGB or HI Communist Party or Chicago Communist Party or from FMDs wife’s money.
Bottom line, BHO Srs limited finances (he was a notorious partying student, so who would trust him with money) does not preclude SADO from getting funds to go to Kenya to give birth which Gramma Sarah repeatedly said she witnessed, IMO. The missionaries could also have funded the trip to hide the pregnancy to protect BHO Srs. future.
AND THIS IS YOUR RESULT. PULL MY FINGER.
“Yes, I believe they are forged. Barry’s entire life is a myth, a made-up story enabled and perpetuated by vast amounts of money from entities wanting to destroy the United States of America.”
And yet you believe the totally undocumented Mal-Val narrative with all of its improbabilities?
Where do you believe that the picture of the “darker boy” and “zero” was taken? Fred Nerks has said it was taken in about 1964. When were these boys ever together, one being supposedly the son of Malcolm X who was never in HI until 1964 and the other the true son of BHO Sr. who was taken back to Kenya from the US in 1964.
You need a Tardis to pull this picture off!
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