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Gun Hypocrisy: With so many guns what are 2nd Amendment enthusiasts waiting for?
Nolan Chart ^ | December 9, 2012 | Joel S. Hirschhorn, libertarian

Posted on 12/22/2012 4:29:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Puzzling me for a long time is the inconsistency between two claims by gun and Second Amendment supporters. One is that what they worship is critically needed to defend themselves against a government that they would view as oppressive and unacceptable. The other is their belief that the US government has already become awful, stealing their liberties.

Why then, I keep asking myself, have we not seen a violent uprising among the untold millions of Americans owning guns to take back their government? Why do we not see what goes on in European nations, namely violent public uprisings against governments?

There is more private gun ownership in the US than any other nation. We have a far right part of the population with considerable public presence and power. FOX News, the Tea Party movement, and countless groups and think tanks angrily attacking the mainstream media, liberals, and leftist politicians as well as just about everything done by President Obama.

So, why hasn’t the massive number of gun nuts who keep expressing their love of the Second Amendment actually done what they claim is exactly needed, what the Second Amendment was created to give them the right to do, and what their massive gun power supposedly gives them the means to accomplish? Especially when they lose major elections, when their Republican and conservative politicians fail to deliver to them?

Are the paranoid doom and gloom gun nuts waiting for things to get a whole lot worse before they actually implement the grand plan to use their guns to overthrow what they see as an evil, unconstitutional and oppressive government?

From their perspective, how much worse does the government have to become before they finally get the courage to use their guns and restore American democracy and liberties?(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at nolanchart.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; cw2; cwii; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
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To: Tzimisce
I'm getting more unreasonable and aggressive as the days go by.
41 posted on 12/22/2012 6:38:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Joel S. Hirschhorn, libertarian

Joel will be one of the first asking the later question of, "where were the 2nd amendment proponents when we needed them". That's the question Joel won't be able to ask out loud, since he will have lost his freedom of expression, along with his 2nd amendment right. But, I doubt that Joel is libertarian, since a libertarian would be against government intrusion into our lives and into our bill of rights, which includes the 2nd amendment.
42 posted on 12/22/2012 6:41:20 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: samadams2000

What is required? Three things: A trigger event, a plan, and organization. No one knows what the trigger event will be. It could be be major or seemingly minor event that sets off the chain reaction. There is more than one plan that would succeed and at least two that would be basically bloodless. Organization is a simple at two words: “Stand By”.


43 posted on 12/22/2012 6:46:51 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: samadams2000

What is required? Three things: A trigger event, a plan, and organization. No one knows what the trigger event will be. It could be be major or seemingly minor event that sets off the chain reaction. There is more than one plan that would succeed and at least two that would be basically bloodless. Organization is as simple as two words: “Stand By”.


44 posted on 12/22/2012 6:47:24 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The left will run out of handouts before armed Americans run out of guns and ammo. Parasite on left violence will start first. Since the left has nothing to give, there is no reason for armed Americans to go on offense. Lock and load and pass the popcorn. The mutual attrition of parasites and the left means less targets. It’s a lot easier playing defense anyway. Socialism always fails, always.


45 posted on 12/22/2012 6:48:57 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This Joel ahole who wrote this crap calls himself a “libertarian?” Seriously?


46 posted on 12/22/2012 6:49:41 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any guns I may own are for my self defense of my family first and for feeding my family second.


47 posted on 12/22/2012 6:58:26 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Waco.
Ruby Ridge.

Funny how the Feds never tried such things again.


48 posted on 12/22/2012 7:02:51 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perhaps because they have not started hauling people off to the concentration camps, breaking down front doors to confiscate weapons, and shooting people in the streets yet. Have you noticed uprisings in other parts of the world, espeically the middle east against their oppressors. Yes! Where? In those countries where the people had access to weapons. When people are pushed far enough by the government in this nation, you may very well see it. Dont’ forget, we did have a War of Independence in our history, as well as a Civil War. They both built up over a period of time before the blood spillage began.


49 posted on 12/22/2012 7:08:14 PM PST by evangmlw
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
AS USUAL, the inestimable ANNIE COUlTER...GETS IT RIGHT.... IN her latest column she proves beyond a doubt that....that the only policy that ever did and every will protect society from the crazed killer is CONCEALED CARRY. Quoting study after study after study conducted by the equally inestimable JOHN LOTT and WILLIAM LANDES ..."Landes and Lott examined many of the very policies being proposed right now in response to the Connecticut massacre: waiting periods and background checks for guns, the death penalty and increased penalties for committing a crime with a gun. None of these policies had any effect on the frequency of, or carnage from, multiple-victim shootings. (I note that they did not look at reforming our lax mental health laws, presumably because the ACLU is working to keep dangerous nuts on the street in all 50 states.)

ONLY ONE PUBLIC POLICY HAS EVER BEEN SHOWN TO REDUCE THE DEATH RATE FROM SUCH CRIMES: CONCEALED CARRY LAWS."

END OF STORY....

I guess members of the staffs of the gun grabbin congress folks arent as good at researching as the lone, lovely brainy ANN.... What a national treasure!

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-12-19.html#read_more


50 posted on 12/22/2012 7:19:00 PM PST by jimsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are being goaded by this article - best not to respond.


51 posted on 12/22/2012 7:20:15 PM PST by omni-scientist
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To: Argus
I no more worship my guns than I do my fire extinguishers. I don’t want to have to use either in an emergency, but it’s far better to have and not need them than vice versa.

Well said.

52 posted on 12/22/2012 7:35:54 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i think the reason for many is that they know force doesn’t convince anyone of your side, and it’ the resort of last choice. most people want to be able to defend themselves, most don’t have guns so that they can go on offense and start a revoluton.


53 posted on 12/22/2012 7:44:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Have you ever heard of Ann Barnhardt?


54 posted on 12/22/2012 7:45:28 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sir Napsalot

hasn’ t happened yet. i believe that one is where some false flag goes after him personally.


55 posted on 12/22/2012 7:45:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Argus

and you can kill someone with a fire extinguisher, several ways. not a bad analogy.


56 posted on 12/22/2012 7:47:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: jwalsh07

could be. “If sh#t happens, sh#t happens.”


57 posted on 12/22/2012 7:49:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: RedMonqey

there will never be another george washington.

that doesn’t mean there won’t be good leaders, but we’ll never have another george washington.


58 posted on 12/22/2012 7:52:35 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Terry L Smith

personally i think they are just dying for a response to bring the hammer down. they have no idea what they are facing. 80 million leaderless patriot resistors.


59 posted on 12/22/2012 7:55:28 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Harry Belfonte says Obama ought to go Third World on us and start governing by dictat.

Maxine Waters says they ought to nationalize the oil companies.

Ed Schultz and Andrew Cuomo say it’s time to confiscate our weapons.

Obama says it’s time to fundamentally transform America, and redistribute all the wealth.

Jamie Foxx says it’s cool to kill all the white people.

Why isn’t Hirschhorn calling for the Left to get on with it?

Fact is it seems evident that both sides ARE making the early moves, getting their troops into position.

I like our chances.


60 posted on 12/22/2012 7:56:14 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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