[JRandomFreeper]

I'm a southern, but I despise slavery. Especially the slavery going on today in places like Somalia. Mostly done by muslims.

I'd like to see the UN place a bounty on slavers ears.

As far as the war of Northern Aggression, the south should have freed the slaves and THEN fired on Ft. Sumter.

It would be a completely different war today, what with the south having means of production, and raw materials. And many more than 600K dead.

/johnny

[manc]

Damn right.

1862 slavery became a big issue for the north and Lincoln and to be honest Lincoln played it smart by doing what he did he knew Britain, France and Spain would not join the south.

Had those contries come to the south then we would have a different outcome but then again so many instances would have.

I firmly think that if Jackson my favourite had not died then Leee would not have lost at Gettysburg

Should have freed them and sent them north and let the north do what they wanted with them, send them back or give them freedom

[Eric Pode of Croydon]

In response to General Cleburne's suggestion that the slaves be freed and armed, Howell Cobb famously said "If slaves will make good sol­diers, our whole the­ory of slav­ery is wrong."

I'll let these men attest to who was more correct....

[RobbyS]

The fireeaters were in charge at the start of the war, but then the moderates like Davis took over. Lee was in favor of enlisting blacks for military purposes, because he could never get enough troops. But the only important figure to argument for emancipation was Pat Cleburne, an outstanding general from Ireland. If he had been in charge instead of Bragg or Hood, Sherman would have had more of a fight on his hands.

[laweeks]

The slavery issue was a bit hypocritical, since the North didn’t really have any cash crop that needed slaves. So their looking down their noses at the South was a but much.

That being said, Lincoln spent countless hours mulling over what to do about the freed and unfreed slaves: where would they go, how would they be treated (the Northerners didn’t want them looking for work any more than we today don’t want illegal aliens seeking jobs available for American citizens), should the Southern slave owners be financially compensated for their loss of “property,” etc., ad nauseum.

So, yes slavery was the resultant big issue evolving from the high tariffs on Southern products and numerous other non-slave issues.

[BIGLOOK]

It's always been done by the Moslems along their trade routes from Zanzibar to Aoudaghost to Marrakech; that was the Black trade. The Tukrs or Ottomans, also Moslems, practiced slavery as well but that was the White slave trade, raiding the Balkans for women and children. The blacks were traded away by blacks to the Arabs, bought in lots by the Portuguese and Spanish and sent to the Caribbean and South America, some were sent to some of southern states for plantation workers but even knowing that bit of history guess who bears the burden of blame.

[LaserJock]

“I’m a southern, but I despise slavery.”

BUT?! This southern boy wants to know what the word “but” means in that sentence. I’m giving you a chance to rephrase FRiend on the assumption you just chose your words poorly.

[A Strict Constructionist]

“the south should have freed the slaves and THEN fired on Ft. Sumter.”

The same with Brown v Board of Education. Integrate and watch the North remain segregated. Wait that’s what happened except in the minds of those in Boston to Buffalo. It wouldn’t have mattered. They still like to make fun of Southern accents, even when they’re from Boston or Brooklyn.

[BroJoeK]

JRandomFreeper: "As far as the war of Northern Aggression, the south should have freed the slaves and THEN fired on Ft. Sumter."

That is a flight of fantasy so opposite of historical reality, it suggests there is nothing serious going on between your ears, JRF.

[hedgetrimmer]

Why would you want the UN to have that kind of power?