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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: alphadoggie

So do nouns...sir.


581 posted on 08/11/2012 8:43:51 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Norm Lenhart; Sola Veritas; CWSNTEXAS
The fact that the National SOCIALISTS came to power on the support of people willing to throw reason to the wind in order to get out of their then current circumstance seems lost on many on FR as of late.

But then again, these are people who think that your vote for a person does not mean that you support them/their policies.

In short, people are once again throwing reason to the wind and ‘hoping’ for ‘change’. Four years ago, such people were called idiots by the very people who now embrace their ideals. How freaking mindless is that? Abandoning your very reason out of fear never results in a positive outcome.

Exactly, Norm. I recommend reading:

Defeating the Totalitarian Lie is the story of a German family before, during and after the 12 years of Nazi rule. What he writes is not just a fascinating description of how the totalitarian system came to pass and what effect it had on the German people in their daily lives. Additionally the author always links what happened to them with historical developments. His facts and figures especially with regards to the war are largely unknown to American people.

His analysis of the totalitarian roots of the national socialist and the international socialist/ communist ideologies is fascinating. He describes the links of Islamic terrorism with Hitler as well as with the Soviets and defines the terrorist war on us a proxy war. He shows the Neo-Nazis of today and how the influence of the Nazi ideology is destroying America’s infrastructure of freedom while most Americans sleep. He points out what has to be done. The principle theme of the book is the role of God in human society.

Hilmar von Campe died June 12 of this year but his website is being kept up to date.
582 posted on 08/11/2012 8:44:31 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: linton59
however, that will be determined when they stand before God.

Really "they"? What about you?

"If there come any unto you, and bring not this teaching, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work". 2 John 1:10,11

583 posted on 08/11/2012 8:44:31 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

You’re a very childish person.


584 posted on 08/11/2012 8:44:34 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Jim Robinson

Damn Jim... you make me proud to be an American. There are so few of us left it seems.

LLS


585 posted on 08/11/2012 8:44:34 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: CWSNTEXAS; LukeSW

And this Catholic stands with both of you.


586 posted on 08/11/2012 8:44:56 PM PDT by alphadoggie
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To: TurkeyLurkey
God has already “sorted it out”—it’s in His Word, the Holy Bible, the words of which will judge men who are without God His way.

So, there you have it. I take it by your remarks that Obama's assertion that he is a Christian is good enough for you. No need to look into his moral foundations or theological beliefs, he's a Christian. Thank God he's not a Mormon.

587 posted on 08/11/2012 8:45:28 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: so_real
I don't think Obama would make it two years of a second term before impeachment. His own party would ditch him to make room for a better 2016 contender.

It will be a cold day in hell before the Senate Democrats vote to remove Obama from office.

588 posted on 08/11/2012 8:46:32 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SoCalTransplant

“I’m sorry, but you do not know God’s mind enough to make this judgement.”

“I personally dont think judgement day for the Christian will really involve politics....”

I believe God still speaks to people when they take enough time to listen. As for politics, I’m pretty sure the book of Revelation talks about the anti-Christ, who rules the whole world. That seems pretty political to me. It’s been well documented on FR why so many of us can’t vote for Romney and I won’t revisit the many points. I refuse to be part of a Laodicean, compromising church.


589 posted on 08/11/2012 8:47:28 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: maggief
Please pull my account.

Whatta Drama Queen. Log off and don't ever log back in - mission accomplished.

590 posted on 08/11/2012 8:47:46 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: centurion316

You take it wrong.


591 posted on 08/11/2012 8:47:52 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: SaraJohnson

You don’t support Mittens but you tolerate those who do as long as they don’t harass those who do not.
***It seems to me (and probably obvious to any of the ABR crowd) that such harassment has been thoroughly tolerated.


592 posted on 08/11/2012 8:48:01 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: manc

Those who would also have “baby tantrums” if the shoe shifted to the other foot, are as yet unknown. FWIW, I think it is stupid and short sighted to opus out if one fundamentally disagrees with His Jimness about the appropriateness of a putative choice to vote for Mitt. Opusing out is no way at all to “win friends and influence people.”


593 posted on 08/11/2012 8:48:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Jim Robinson
I too think Ryan is OK, but I also know Romney did this for what he thought was his own benefit. Too bad the GOP ran another GOP insider liberal.

I felt back stabbed and robbed by the last Bush. His compassionate decades long wars while aiding and abetting open borders, bailouts and extremely questionable policies such as the Patriot Act, was too much.

Bush made me a sultan of cynicism and justifiably so.

300 million Americans to chose from and the GOP runs some wealthy liberal insider from Massachusetts?

What a shame.

594 posted on 08/11/2012 8:48:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion or tools of deceit)
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To: cripplecreek
When Rollins was asked about Mitt's problems in the south HE LAUGHED and said they would vote for Mitt because they don't have any other choice.

Which is exactly what the GOP-e is/are doing.

Rove, Rollins, Romney et al.

Laughing at the Republicans who they KNEW would go along with their running of a liberal like Romney.

That is how the big mucky mucks in the republican party feel about their base.

They think they can get enough votes from the ABO crowd, so they can continue to politically spit on Conservatives and Conservatism.

I'm not going along with that.

As long as "we" keep voting their leftist candidates in, they will continue to use "us" all the while laughing at what suckers "we" are.

595 posted on 08/11/2012 8:48:37 PM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: Politicalmom

Heaven help us....


596 posted on 08/11/2012 8:48:41 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: nicmarlo
And in good conscience, I cannot agree with the badness is over-exaggerated, mere threats, or hyperbole. It's real, it's evil, and he's destroying our country.

BUMP to your post.

597 posted on 08/11/2012 8:49:43 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: Severa

Vote for the Used Car salesman. At least he will deliver the used car.

Not that your vote in Southern Maryland counts much. Too Democrat.


598 posted on 08/11/2012 8:50:52 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: CWSNTEXAS; Sola Veritas

I believe that the philosophical concept many here are dealing with is called the “principle of double effect”. As y’all haven’t agreed on the principal, kinda pointless to argue how it applies in the Mitt vs. Bambi election.


599 posted on 08/11/2012 8:51:01 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: KingKongCobra
To: RepoGirl

Bravo. You go girl.

I guess you didn't notice, she's gone already, rode the lightening bolt right on outta F.R.

600 posted on 08/11/2012 8:51:01 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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