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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: fabian
About the takeover by the leftists and the weakness of many republicans.

Thanks. Maybe he is less than enthused. "Bitter" may or not may not describe his personal feelings about this. Would have to ask him.
441 posted on 08/11/2012 7:41:21 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Earthdweller
Answer me this, please. I am a 35 yr old conservative woman living in southern MD with my husband and our two sons. In my view, Obama is THE WORST President in my lifetime and the thought of him getting another 4 years makes me physically ill. Romney on the other hand gives me the creeps, a used-car salesman vibe similar to the one I got when I saw Clinton for the first time when I was in high school.

So, who do we vote for?

442 posted on 08/11/2012 7:41:21 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: Jim Robinson

Lastly, we’re having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff.
***So can I come off probation now? All of my posts are under review for the last several days, and freepmail not allowed because I’m “too new” to use it.


443 posted on 08/11/2012 7:41:54 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I appreciate your stance and sticking to your principles. I like Ryan but I still will not vote for Romney.

I am sorry about the Admins.


444 posted on 08/11/2012 7:41:54 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow, like this post surprised me. Don’t complain if Obama wins, when you choose to sit out.


445 posted on 08/11/2012 7:42:29 PM PDT by shoedog
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To: MHGinTN

“May I add that this louder and louder hate speech toward Romney will work to suppress the conservative/opposition to Obama? With that on the table, it becomes likely that there really are soem who want the destruction to happen, to teacvh the GOPe a lesson at the expense of the death of the Republic. These posters will attack you for pointing out that IN YOUR OPINION four more years of Obama will end free elections and tip the scales of government dependents beyond what can be overcome even if conservatives turn out to vote in record numbers.”


Looks like you’ve made the fateful leap from conservative to lib Mr.”Hate speech.” As for “ending free elections,” how exactly is he going to do that? Half of the States would secede from the Union if that happened. The rest would be filled with internal strife and revolution. Let’s face it, 4 years of Romney = 4 years of Obama, and on top of that the schmuck is going to ask us to vote for him for another 4 years. That’s almost 10 years of Progressive rule, and you think a phallic victory over one man, Obama, is going to do something? It’s bigger than Obama. It’s about the ideology behind Obama. And, fact is, that ideology has already secured the White House. It’s time to look to 2016 and work where we are able to remove the RINOs from the ground up.


446 posted on 08/11/2012 7:42:50 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: BlackElk
If Romney wins, the conservative cause will be destroyed as well and the GOP will be destroyed as a political vehicle for conservatism.

Nonsense. Romney will be bound by an increased conservative majority in the Congress. Obama will know no such bounds. Return to Earth, your oxygen is running low.

447 posted on 08/11/2012 7:42:50 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: CatherineofAragon

I’m expecting the drooling and fainting to start immediately.

*Sigh*


448 posted on 08/11/2012 7:43:58 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: manc

Just as a test, Jim could try a fake-out in which he says he has been convinced, he will get out the biggest clothespin he can find and vote the (R) for president.

NOW we can watch the reactions and gauge for ourselves who is the most overwrought!


449 posted on 08/11/2012 7:44:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: John W

Yes, although that is a separate matter from the topic of this thread. I didn’t get involved in that other matter and didn’t realize it had bled onto this thread.


450 posted on 08/11/2012 7:45:23 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: nicmarlo

Please. Obama's been acting as Emperor of this country, orders issued by fiat, contravening laws that, yes, our elected official put into place. Does the recent amnesty by fiat come to your mind?

I'm quite aware of that overstep and many others. All we require is 2/3rds of the Senate and it's game over. I will focus on that. If that goal can be achieved, we get to oust Obama without compromising our conservative credentials. As far as I am concerned, it is the better plan. Your mileage may vary. Vote your conscience just as I vote mine.


451 posted on 08/11/2012 7:46:07 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Artcore; Jim Robinson

I agree with you completely. I was shocked to read Mr. Robinson’s very unchristian post and will move on to other conservative websites. I also would like to thank the two moderators who objected to Mr. Robinson’s bigotry.


452 posted on 08/11/2012 7:46:58 PM PDT by saberpride
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To: Jim Robinson

let me add my voice to Jim’s. There is no way that I’ll voluntarily eat a crap sandwich, no matter how much mayo...


453 posted on 08/11/2012 7:48:05 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: nicmarlo
Obama's already shown no respect for the rule of law much less listening to ANY elected representatives or Senators. He rules by Executive Fiat. And, mark my words, it will only become worse should he remain in office.

You are absolutely right. Plus he gets the "support" of people like John Boehner and Chief Justice Roberts which makes it even easier.

454 posted on 08/11/2012 7:48:16 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: NVDave

So I really don’t see any downside to staying home and washing one’s hands of the Republican party, nor any upside to voting for these clowns.
***I agree, but what do you mean by “the 2nd is doomed as long as the GOP continues to nominate Catholics to the court”? What does being catholic have to do with anything?


455 posted on 08/11/2012 7:48:21 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Severa
So, who do we vote for?

Severa, I'm older than you. By the time you reach my age you learn that every politician sooner or later gives you the creeps.

You choose the one who will do less damage and advance to a further degree what you believe in. (If you want to get to point Z, would you prefer to start at point M or point A?) Then you fight, and keep fighting the rest of your life, to make things better.

What you don't do is give up, get angry because you differ on some issues with a particular politician, and let the SOBs take over, knocking you back to point A.


456 posted on 08/11/2012 7:48:59 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: Resettozero

It constitutes the entire last paragraph of Jim’s article that starts this thread.


457 posted on 08/11/2012 7:48:59 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: JoeProBono

Romney wouldn’t drive that. Where’s he supposed to put the dog?


458 posted on 08/11/2012 7:49:54 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Jim Robinson
The Democrats have no serious competition in this upcoming election. Embittered conservatives can find an outlet on some of the token conservative parties. This means if you don't vote for Obama or Romney and vote for one of the third parties, you are wasting your vote and favoring Obama.

As a matter of strategy, the game is to hold on to what ever power you have and fight a retrograde campaign rather than surrender. This gives you the opportunity to regroup and come back to win. Our presidential elections are often close. Several percent of wasted votes will give Obama the presidency. Holding your nose and voting for the lesser of two evils gives us the opportunity to strengthen the Tea Party and get more conservatives in the House and Senate.

Letting your faith blind you to strategy and taking a lot of supporters along with you could be enough to put Obama back in the White House. Just think of the next round of executive orders outlawing right wing websites and talk radio. JR, you are not doing us a favor. Pragmatism has its virtues.

459 posted on 08/11/2012 7:50:33 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Artcore

“Isn’t great to watch JimRob-that great purveyor of Christian virtues-tolerate the image of Romney dressed up like a spastic Mormon missionary by JoeProBono. So now FR mocks members of another faith. Hey Jim, have you ever thought that many of your loyal FReepers are Mormons? But hey, i guess it doesn’t matter; Mitt’s a Mormon, and this makes the bashing of Mormons (Hard working Americans) ok in your book. Just wow.

And Jim can sit here and lecture us about Christ? It is sad watching this site go down this twisted path...it really is.”


The LDS is a large, deceptive, and destructive religious cult which is an insult to God. Mind, they aren’t the BIGGEST one, and there are many. You won’t catch me apologizing for Mormonism just for politics though. Your own lack of reasoning on this matter, embracing emotionalism, is your own “twisted path.”


460 posted on 08/11/2012 7:50:54 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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