Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney

Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

[Williams]

I’m still waiting for Elsie to answer simply which of these are engaging in false teaching or not:

Roman Catholics
Greek Orthodox Catholics
All Protestants
Baptists
Jews
Muslims
Budhists

Surely for the sake of God Elsie is not afraid to deal with this matter?

I’m just guessing that Elsie believes most on that list are engaging in False Teaching. And in the eyes of God every one of us is as bad as a Mormon.

Now I want an answer and I think it’s perfectly reasonable to ask that of Elsie.

[greyfoxx39]

Sadly some of you live in an alternate universe where Mormons are a big issue.
In fact, so much so that you don’t seem to be worrying about radical Islam. But hey, call me kooky.

Thanks for the lead-in....

1 - A LDS perspective on Muhammed (LDS.org)
http://www.lds.org/ensign/2000/08/a-latter-day-saint-perspective-on-muhammad?lang=eng

2 - U.S. Muslims share friendship, similar values with Mormons (LA Times, published in 2008)
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/02/local/me-morlims2

3 - Mormonism and Islam: Commonality and Cooperation Between Abrahamic Faiths (March 10 & 11, 2011 - Utah Valley University)
http://www.uvu.edu/religiousstudies/mormonismandislam/

4 - Ask a Mormon: What do Mormons think of Muslims (March 2010 - MormonWoman.org)
http://mormonwoman.org/2010/03/15/ask-a-mormon-woman-what-do-mormons-think-about-islam/

5 - Mormons and Muslims break fast together (Ramadan 2010 - Deseret News)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705386347/Mormons-Muslims-break-the-fast-in-Southern-California.html

6 - Islamic Translation Service (Brigham Young University)
http://meti.byu.edu/islamic.php

7 - Muslims attending BYU focus on similarities between Islam, LDS tenets (Deseret News - Dec 2009)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353014/Muslims-attending-BYU-focus-on-similarities-between-Islam-LDS-tenets.html

[Tennessee Nana]

statement made by Ann Romney
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Another interesting statement by Ann is that until Willard ran for office in 2002 they didnt know any Republicans...

now aint that there right amazing ???

How dod you live in America and manage to avoid “knowing” any Republicans ???

I live in a nearly 80% Republican county but I know quite a few Democrats...

Maybe Iz speshall...

[colorcountry]

I am going to guess by his postings that Williams isn’t interested in Mormonism, refuses to think about or learn anything about Mormonism, and thinks it is wrong if anyone else does.

[Tennessee Nana]

Because I will be very facinated if she does answer.
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Elsie is a goat girl...

Its possible that at any given moment she could have a Millet spell or the goats could eat this page...

[greyfoxx39]

I am going to guess by his postings that Williams isn’t interested in Mormonism, refuses to think about or learn anything about Mormonism, and thinks it is wrong if anyone else does.

....and every post of his illustrates this.

[ansel12]

You have been ranting and raving in post after post about FR’s bigotry, hatred, anti-Jewish treatment, the most vile anti-freerepublic trolling and insults, and when I went to your home page I saw this, which is how you have you have been posting on this thread, as though you are cleaning up a nest of vipers, bigots, and racists.

“”Proud member of the Cleanse FR of Stormfront Bigots Brigade.””

[Graybeard58]

It has long been considered common courtesy here to ping someone if one is talking about him or her in a post.

I kinda ignore that "courtesy" when quoting J.R. (like I'm doing in this reply) I quote him frequently, giving him credit, and figure it's more courteous to not ping him every time. If I ever quote him about something I disagree with, I'll be sure to ping him.

The man probably gets hundreds of pings daily and that's a lot to try to keep up with.

[colorcountry]

Not power, just a reminder that this place doesn’t tolerate bigots.

Oh but it does, you're still here. You are bigoted against ex-mormons, democrats, and people who won't toe the party line and vote for Romney. You HATE them don't you?

[Tennessee Nana]

who cares if the leader of the free world has a character that collapses when it comes to practicing critical discernment...?”
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In Willard they will get King Obama II

[greyfoxx39]

you have been posting on this thread, as though you are cleaning up a nest of vipers, bigots, and racists.

...don't forget the boasting that she "took this thread down"...

[Springfield Reformer]

But ansel, don’t you know? Sf4dubya is Torah compliant, and would never bear false witness in the form of defaming fellow FReepers without solid, court-worthy evidence. Those wild accusations against ordinary Christians doing their usual complaining about idolatry and false prophets, well, I did see some of those, but it has to be a mistake. I’m betting someone hacked Sf’s account. Sf has preached Torah here, and that settles it for me.

/s

[Williams]

You guessed wrong somewhat. I’m intyerested in it, read all the info posted about it, and I really still don’t care about it.

Also Elsie answers everything so quickly and has a passionate Biblical driven concern about religions (like Mormonism) that engage in “false teaching”.

OK that being the standard, I ask about Jews, Catholics, and assorted others. No answer.

Because dollars to donuts, Catholics and Jews are just as much on that “false teachings” list. It just starts with Mormons, or that is Elsie’s obsession, but I’m betting very strongly that elsie expects to see all Roman Catholics in hell for false teaching.

And that is why I have mentioned Martin Luther for all those who are so worried about Joseph Smith.

Now you know what I think because I said it. And I’m sure Elsie will soon state clearly that Catholics and Jews do NOT engage in “false teaching”??

[Graybeard58]

don't forget the boasting that she "took this thread down"..

I am seriously considering, personally, putting it in "Breaking News".

snicker, snicker.

[Tennessee Nana]

THE 7 LAWS

1
Acknowledge that there is only one G-d who is Infinite and Supreme above all things. Do not replace that Supreme Being with finite idols, be it yourself, or other beings. This command includes such acts as prayer, study and meditation.

I do this

2
Respect the Creator. As frustrated and angry as you may be, do not vent it by cursing your Maker.

I do this

3
Respect human life. Every human being is an entire world. To save a life is to save that entire world. To destroy a life is to destroy an entire world. To help others live is a corollary of this principle.

I do this Im lifelong PRO-LIFE

4
Respect the institution of marriage. Marriage is a most Divine act. The marriage of a man and a woman is a reflection of the oneness of G-d and His creation. Disloyalty in marriage is an assault on that oneness.

I do this I was at CFA on 8/1

5
Respect the rights and property of others. Be honest in all your business dealings. By relying on G-d rather than on our own conniving, we express our trust in Him as the Provider of Life.

I do this

6
Respect G-d’s creatures. At first, Man was forbidden to consume meat. After the Great Flood, he was permitted - but with a warning: Do not cause unnecessary suffering to any creature.

I do this

7
Maintain justice. Justice is G-d’s business, but we are given the charge to lay down necessary laws and enforce them whenever we can. When we right the wrongs of society, we are acting as partners in the act of sustaining the creation.

I do this

Now why are you bashing me and my fellow Christians and giving the goy Willard a pass ???

That blood ob his hands from #3 wonbt just wear away...

[Kevmo]

I refuse to spit on the Torah.
***We’re not asking you to spit on it, we’re asking you to believe in it. The reason why Genesis49:12 is in there is to point to the fact that your messiah has already come. His name is Jesus, Son of David, and multiple titles besides that. Read Isaiah53. Acknowledge the simple history that Jesus was put to death for. Be honest with the facts. You know God wants that.

[ansel12]

""And that as a Roman Catholic I have more issue with the Protestant Reformation than with Mormonism."" "I guess there is a rule against going on a mission to Latin America? Or France? This is what you sit up worrying about at night? Do you mind if people convert to Catholicism or to Judaism? Doesn’t bother you? Jehovah’s witnesses knock on doors in the NorthEast far more than Mormons. I don’t care about them, either."

That was my point, ""Wow, you would rather a Catholic convert to the non-Christian religion of Mormonism than to become a non-Catholic Christian?""

Catholics and Christians being led into an anti-Christian religion doesn't bother you, but becoming a non-Catholic Christian, does bother you.