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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Jim from C-Town

see my post 172


261 posted on 08/11/2012 6:30:14 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
If you live in a solid blue state

Oh, lord... I have explained that and explained that and EXPLAINED that to the harpies of the Sister-Wife Squadron, hereabouts; and, to date, not ONE of them has done anything more than blink, dully and stupidly, at the (evidently) unimaginable concept of being in a state where one's vote DOES. NOT. MATTER, due to said location's electoral color being solidly and irrevocably opposite in nature.

You'll be preaching to the intellectual equivalent of a rock quarry on this one. Trust me. ;)

262 posted on 08/11/2012 6:30:14 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: PAR
"Unfortunately this election is no longer even about any of the legitimate issues you bring up. It is about the very survival of our system of government."

Well, that is it, isnt it? This our last chance to change things with the ballot box. Next stop will be the cartridge box.

Yes, Mormons are a cult. But we are a christian nation and the church, who would have never have contemplated a Mormon 30 years ago...have done just that. So, if our hard core social republican friends are upset, then they should call for a revival. Not a vote for Obama by not voting for Romney.

So , what is it? Do we try to repair our nation through the ballot box or cartridge box? I'm okay with either but I have children and I dont want them to have to go through a civil war.

263 posted on 08/11/2012 6:30:38 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim for being a voice of reason. Even here on FR there are way too many romneybots. The way I see it, if you live in a battleground state and REALLY feel that you have to vote for Mittens, go ahead. But if you live in a solid red or blue state why not send a message to the GOP - NO MORE RINOS. Go to Virgil Goode’s website and tell me if you see ONE thing among his platform that differs with the vast majority of conservatives here on Free Republic.


264 posted on 08/11/2012 6:31:09 PM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12-NOPE Cain?- Guess NOT. ABO & ABMR. I'm going Goode.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ryan is going to be that disinterested? He’s going to tell the Tea Party to snub Romney if they must but please at least go vote for someone who might be able to impeach Barack Obama?


265 posted on 08/11/2012 6:31:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: centurion316
So, who’s helping Obama? Do the math.

I'm not losing any sleep over helping one pro-gay, pro-abortion candidate by not voting for a RINO who's pro-gay and pro-abortion, especially when he never earned or deserved my vote to begin with.

266 posted on 08/11/2012 6:31:47 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: jimrob; RepoGirl; All

First of all, good for you, Jim! 2008 was the last time I’ll ever vote for the lessor of two evils.

For all of you who think Romney is better than obama and worry about what obama will do in a second term, why not ask the GOP why the hell they allow him to do what he does.

Repogirl, you sound like a liberal with all your name calling. Chill out.

Finally, they’re all the same. There’s not a republican in office who would not have accepted Romney’s offer.


267 posted on 08/11/2012 6:32:42 PM PDT by Terry Mross (To my kin & former friends: Don't contact me if you still love obama- We got nothing to talk about)
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To: Diogenesis
O.K. Diogenes, you have convinced me. I will stay home on November 6th and not vote for Romney due to his lack of conservative purity. I will not take responsibility for the Obama Supreme Court picks who may strip the 2nd Amendment from the constitution. I will not take responsibility for sky high taxes, 10 dollar gas, socialized medicine, a persecuted church, increased Islamic and social justice influence, the fairness in media act, and much , much more. I will spend the next four years cursing the Republicans for nominating a moderate and I will maintain my purity. (sarcasm off)
268 posted on 08/11/2012 6:32:42 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: RaisingCain
If I vote neither, both values still equal zero.

As I expected. If you are a conservative and either don't vote (I didn't even consider that option, surely you aren't that nuts) or vote for a third party nobody, you are helping Obama. That holds true even if you are from a state like Kansas (my state). Your vote counts, and a vote for anyone other than the one man who can unseat the maniac in the White House is sheer lunacy. Rock on, dude.

269 posted on 08/11/2012 6:32:50 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: SE Mom

Obama MUST go.


270 posted on 08/11/2012 6:32:50 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Diogenesis
O.K. Diogenes, you have convinced me. I will stay home on November 6th and not vote for Romney due to his lack of conservative purity. I will not take responsibility for the Obama Supreme Court picks who may strip the 2nd Amendment from the constitution. I will not take responsibility for sky high taxes, 10 dollar gas, socialized medicine, a persecuted church, increased Islamic and social justice influence, the fairness in media act, and much , much more. I will spend the next four years cursing the Republicans for nominating a moderate and I will maintain my purity. (sarcasm off)
271 posted on 08/11/2012 6:33:01 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: RaisingCain
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272 posted on 08/11/2012 6:33:22 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: stpio

stpio
Since Mar 24, 2012

No.


273 posted on 08/11/2012 6:33:29 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: conservaterian

Goode hails from deep Democrat roots. This is not impossible to evolve out of, but like Ronald Reagan the evolution usually happens into the GOP, not a third party.

And as for the “bots” talk it is equally foolish whether you say romneybot or obamabot.


274 posted on 08/11/2012 6:33:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Bluebird Singing

I think both political parties want a compliant, dutiful population that knows its place and doesn’t cause any trouble for the powers that be.

For example, the “conservative” John Roberts didn’t have any problem selling the Constitution and the American people down the river.

Why should I expect anything better from Romney, a man with hardly any conservative credentials?


275 posted on 08/11/2012 6:34:05 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Thanks for your efforts. Together we may get five ... or even six ... people to go along with us!

And yes I am fully aware of how difficult it is to sell this patently sensible proposal.

276 posted on 08/11/2012 6:34:05 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Parley Baer

So True!!!


277 posted on 08/11/2012 6:34:05 PM PDT by Fran B (Love!)
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To: gorush

“Ryan could never be more effective than where he is now. Romney takes a true conservative out of a position of power and sends him to foreign funerals for the next four years.”

I think that was Romney’s goal - get Ryan out of the way so he (Romney) can do what he wants with the economy. Ryan is way too conservative and serious about the economy for Romney to have him in the House.


278 posted on 08/11/2012 6:35:13 PM PDT by Marcella (PREPARE)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, I tried to find a way to resign and leave, but could not.

So please ban or zott me, just do what it takes, for I no longer wish to be associated with FR.


279 posted on 08/11/2012 6:35:13 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Once I was young, now I am old and the in between went way too fast)
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To: TonyInOhio

A life of dhimmitude and martyrdom at a time when it didn’t need to happen. Whatever happened to the brave MEN of the past? I am serious. Cowards! obama has the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House, you fools!

Stand up to a Romney administration and be heard if ya don’t like his policies, for Pete’s sake, but get obama out of there! - not talking to you Tony, but to the poster Cripplecreek that you responded to.


280 posted on 08/11/2012 6:35:20 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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