Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Yes, you are right, it seems to be sporadic. It comes and goes. Hopefully, it’s just overloaded...goodnight
If Chris Strunk appeals or requests the b(7) info based on what the judge said at the bottom of the ruling here:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-dcd-1_08-cv-02234/pdf/USCOURTS-dcd-1_08-cv-02234-4.pdf
then we may find out.
The judge said the CBP improperly disallowed the b(7)redaction but the b(2) -for agency ops- was OK to redact.
So it’s ok then if I ask you or someone else to follow that up, last I heard about Strunk he was being threatened or sued for over a hundred thousand dollars over this stuff and that was a long time ago. I sort of formed the opinion he ran out of money and puff.
Nope.
Well, given that he keeps submitting fake birth certificates his real parents could be anyone, dont’cha think L.J.?
AND did you look at the morph photo of Obama and Malcom X? Pretty interesting... they could be twins.
And there is a montage of Photos that claim to show Obama and Malcolm X - and asks you to pick which one is which (the secret is they are ALL Malcolm X- but at least HALF look like Obama)
Here are some [snips]:
34. I visited Hawaii twice and continued our investigation. After further in-depth computerized testing and discovering additional information, we concluded in mid-2012 that Mr. Obama’s identity documents were not only forged beyond the legal standard of probable cause, but due to loop holes in the state of Hawaii’s vital statistics reporting laws, there was the distinct evidence suggesting that Hawaii’s statutes appeared to be in conflict with federal immigration law and posed an independent threat to the national security of the United States.It is pretty comprehensive to say the least.45. Investigators have determined beyond probable cause that the computer image released on April 27, 2011 by the White House, and purporting to be a true computer copy of Mr. Obama’s long form birth certificate, is not a scan of an original hard copy document. It is, in fact, an undeniable computer generated forgery created with the sole intent to deceive the public by commission of felonious fraudulent acts.
53. As such, this computer manipulated fraudulent image cannot be deemed as acceptable legal evidence for the purpose of validation or verification of identity or citizenship, or serve as verification of a birth event by any Secretary of State in the confines of the United States.
54.Mr. Obama has not released any evidence other than a manufactured computer forgery by human intervention and design in an effort to support his claim of his birth taking place at Kapiolani Hospital, Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961.
58. Investigators have also determined that the much touted 1961 newspaper announcements are in fact utterly unreliable as evidence to support verification of the event as depicted in the .pdf image of the manufactured birth certificate released by the White House and attested to my Mr. Obama. In addition the aforementioned announcements can be of no substitute for a Hawaii State Official Birth Certification and or Certificate.
153. Investigators have advised Sheriff Arpaio that several possible crimes may have been committed:
154. First, the fraudulent creation of an official document.
155. Second, the White House characterizing a forgery as an officially-produced governmental birth record; and
156. Third, Mr. Obama represented to the residents of Maricopa County and the American public that a forgery was “proof positive” of his authentic 1961 Hawaiian long-form birth certificate, thereby deceiving voters and state election commissions across the country into believing he was eligible to become President, have his name appear on Presidential ballots, thereby garnering votes from the public under false pretenses.163. Investigators concluded that this representation of “80” that appears on Mr. Obama's selective service card is in fact an altered 2008 pica date stamp.
164. Investigators have advised Sheriff Arpaio that several possible crimes may have been committed:170. We discovered that data records for the entire week of August 2, 1961 through August 7, 1961, were completely missing from the microfilm roll. This included the alleged date of Mr. Obama’s birth (August 4, 1961).
209. Record not released including the follow:
A. Original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.
B. Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham)
C. Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama)
D. Obama’s adoption records
E. Records of Obama’s and his mother’s repatriation as US citizens on return from return from Indonesia
F. Obama’s baptism records
G. Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii)
H. Punahou School financial aid or school records
I. Occidental College financial aid records
J. Harvard Law School records
K. Columbia senior thesis
L. Columbia College records
M. Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association
N. Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator
O. Obama’s law client list
P. Obama’s medical records
Q. Obama’s passport records
Another notice:
I will be starting a “Zero’s Background Research” ping list.
It will not be a busy list, just if a new thread happens, an old thread gets new life, or some new important info.
Freepmail me if anyone is interested in getting added.
Count me in
Please include me.
You’re on.
Fred, I’m one of those who has given up posting because of all the rancor. There are a couple of FR posters I could name who are downright loons.
I’m also one of those who is very much interested in your research and would like to continue hearing the story.
Would that you could just ignore Carp’s bait. Not that he will quit posting if you don’t bite, but responding does seem to fuel him.
I hear you...
Yes, that’s a very comprehensive list, thanks for posting.
PS. It’s not the responses that act as fuel, it’s anything that doesn’t agree with his personal opinion...
Anyone who wants to see where this story starts might need to go back a few pages to:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?page=1081#1081
And scroll past the insults, because in their own way, they are useful; without them, you might never see the reponses. Glass half-full, always!
Aha.
11 years and I finally learned how.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?page=1400#1400
BARACK OBAMA GREW UP IN KENYA - SAYS MALIK
•At 1:35 “Growing up with Obama, with Barack”
•At 1:52 “Like I said, when they grew up in AFRICA.”
•At 4:00 “We talked about…especially the times with his brother, boys on the block years ago.”
Many thanks for that link!
#34 is verrrrrry interesting!
ADDITIONAL:
“...“We talked about growing up with Barack, we talked about his father,” Bolling explained, repeating what he had on his program, Follow the Money...”
And anyone who listens carefully to that conversation will understand what really happened...Bolling doesn’t know that zero didn’t grow up in Kenya. When Malik tells him about growing up with Barack, Bolling believes he’s talking about the WON.
That’s how you fool FOX. The Barack Malik grew up with in Nairobi was the son of the kenyan student and he wasn’t zero, because zero was in Hawaii in 1964 and in Indonesia until he was at least 10 years old, and then returned to Hawaii. That didn’t give him time to grow up with Malik.
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