Posted on 06/19/2011 7:01:27 PM PDT by RED SOUTH
Here is the why Romney will be the republican nominee and why Perry or Cain or Bachmann will not save the republicans. Romney is moving left on global warming and staying the course on Romneycare and you will see him take his natural left positions on other issues as the campaign gets underway. His goal is to attract as many democrat voters into the republican open primaries as possible to vote for him. Meanwhile , Bachmann has been brought into the race by the establishment as well as Cain who has no idea. Perry is coming in too. This is to split the Tea Party and conservative vote allowing Romney to win with whatever republican votes he gets plus the democrat crossovers as the democrats will not have a primary race with Obama running unopposed.
I believe Sarah Palin knows this. I think Palin also believes the republican party is worthless. Like us , she has watched them sell out once they got the House back as the current leadership is from the same group of republicans who passed big government and huge deficits under Bush and voted for TARP and bailouts. Boehner and Cantor was there for it all. Just the other night Palin said she was watching and hoping she didn't have to go rogue on them.
The big debate has been , is Palin running? She seems to be and at the same time , doesn't seem to be. I think she is running for President but not for the republican nomination. I think she will send shock waves through the political establishment when she does announce that she is running as an Independant , going rogue. That is why she is in no hurry to announce and can wait pass the filing deadlines for republican primaries. Organizing4Palin is in 50 states , she has enough people to get on the ballot in all 50 states. The bus tours , the movie Undefeated is part of a general election strategy instead of a republican primary strategy. Her famous speech in Wisconsin was as much against republicans as it was against democrats.
Please don't bombart this thread with , no third party posts and how it will hand Obama another term. That is just plain false. Obama has sunk so low that his campaign is hopeless. Imagine the state of the race if Romney is the nominee. If you think people sat out because of McCain , you have not seen anything yet. The middle between Obama and Romney will be wide open and a conservative candidate could beat them both easily. Perot lead Clinton and Bush in 92 before he dropped out and got back in again.
“I’m sorry, but she would lose the general badly, however, because of the media-generated attacks that still linger over her.”
To make such a statement and sound like you’re confident of it, almost a year and a half from the election, can only come from a desire for her to lose. (Especially since The Undefeated has yet to be released.) The truth is you have no real confidence.
Remember, the Marxists will do anything to prevent a Palin presidency. They’re not worried about Romney, or Pawlenty. They could handle Cain or Bachmann, whether in totally derailing them at the campaign level or otherwise.
But against Palin, they are defenseless.
Remember, the Marxists have latched on to an ideology that is completely worthless and in denying this fact subconsciously they are protecting themselves in the short term from the knowledge that they are intellectually inferior (as seen by the absense of any thoughtfully and openly articulated defense of Marxism), morally bankrupt and spiritually lost.
No one can be more appealing than the most popular Governor in America, a person that you seem willing to concede can win the GOP primary along with other GOP primary winners such as HW Bush, Bob Dole, Richard Nixon, Ford, and John McCain.
Palin is a uniter, not a divider, you do not consistently run in the 80 to 93% approval ratings as a Governor, unless you can reach all the people.
Your liberal agenda is a strange one for freerepublic.
Now, that's not cool. Some of my best friends are Chigasians.
Speaking to your first post about the MSM telling us to pick McCain as an electable moderate, that certainly is true in fact liberals have told me they like McCain compared to other Republicans, but of course all voted for Obama.
To me McCain was worse than a moderate, he was a moderate that tried to flip most of his long standing positions to conservate sounding ones just for the 2008 election, and then his senate primary because he was challenged. In other words, he was a phony who would cause great damage in the WH. Now enter Romney who is likely to follow the same path as Mccain if he got the nomination.
However Palin is not going to run and the hard-wired Republicans will vote the R {for Romney] on election day.
No, it comes from someone with 40 years experience following national elections and reading the polls.
I hate the reality that Sarah cannot win the national election, but I accept its reality.
Well, The Won himself is from..."Chicago"! Concidence? I think not! No wonder he's so sensitive about it.
I love, support her, and wish she could be President.... but know she is too smart to run.
You are discounting her servant’s heart and her faith in the Lord. She is smart enough to know that she is uniquely qualified to fix what is wrong and that God will guide her and protect her and her family as she leads a nation back to HIM.
At this stage I cant argue with either point, early 2008 many Republicans (RINOs) in Maryland told me they thought Mccain was the best candidate (much to my distress) and those ones thought Palin was a drag to him. I personally thought McCain would get beaten by Obama because he was a crappy candidate, and I knew it after Bush made the TARP speech. His loss had little to do with Palin.
Alternatively you got others that seem to think Palin would have won 2008 in a landslide, that is a stretch too. 2008 was going to be a bad year for any Republican candidate and probably just as well we threw away Mccain then.
Someone who can read the tea leaves, loves Gov Palin but realizes she cannot win the General is a liberal?
Pleeeze.
You quote polls. Here are some others.
From ABC/WAPO
“42% of Republicans ‘definitely would not’ vote for Sarah Palin from this month.
The results of a new ABC News/Washington Post poll released Tuesday bear ill omen for former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Nearly two-third of those surveyed said they “definitely would not” vote for Palin should she decide to run for president in 2012. It's known that she is generally unpopular with Democrats and Independent voters, but the knife in her candidacy is further twisted by the poll numbers from Republicans: 42 percent of GOPers surveyed rejected voting for her.
More than six in 10 surveyed said that Palin was not qualified to be president.”
Those are fatal numbers. When a candidate needs 88 to 90% of his/her party to vote for them, and 42% say they would not, that is fatal.
Most of this is not her fault. She was horribly (not) prepared by the McCain team for the media in 2008. Secondly, it's always the first one off the landing craft that gets shot. She was the first big time female conservative candidate. She has set the stage for Bachman and others, but like Katherine Harris before her, once the Dems and the MSM have it in for you, it never stops.
And remember the dirty little secret of female elective politics. Women TURN AGAINST conservatives, ESPECAILLY IF THE CANDIDATE IS FEMALE.
Trust me, I wish the reality was better, but, unfortunately, it is not.
A fake conservative would be the person that when they get a conservative that can actually win the Republican Presidential primary, goes to war against that possibility.
Palin is, and has been neck and neck for the 2012 nomination against Romney since 2008, yet your fight, is to stop Palin.
But you must be lying.
Strategically, there is no reason for someone who wants Palin to win to claim, a year and a half before the fact, that she can’t win.
Because if you know anything about presidential elections, anything can happen even in a month’s time, and there are sixteen months still to come.
If you want her to win, your strategy should be to promote that possibility as a likely one.
So either you really do want her to win but are just a little dumb, or you really do have 40 years of viable knowledge about election politics and are lying. If the latter, you may not be dumb about elections but you are kind of dumb in the grander scheme of things.
This might be the steroids talking...
Seriously, are you OK?
If she runs, I will support her in every way possible, max out $, campaign, surrogate speak, etc.
I just think, from experience and dinner conversations, that she is too smart to run.
As far as numbers changing, yes they do, but the hate of her is so deep-seated among so many fools and the liberal hate groups, those numbers cannot be overcome.
And Sarah would be the first to tell you, it's about the issues and winning the General, it's not about her personally.
I guess we disagree.
Numbers can turn very quickly, but we cannot remove the deep-seated hate among the liberal groups that drive her numbers.... even her Republican numbers.
If she runs I would support her in every way possible. I just think she is way too smart to run.
She will ensure the nominated candidate is as conservative as possible, but she will be the King-maker, not the King.
Driven off a cliff.
Seems to me we should not willingly go along for the ride.
Give a charismatic conservative a billion dollar campaign against Obama, and the voters will come to her and Republican turnout will be awesome, Palin has a history of big victories.
Palin is better for the GOP and the entire ticket, than her challenger, Mitt Romney
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