WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST

Reaganite Republican ^ | January 26, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

Hawai'i election official's sworn affadavit: 

"No Obama birth certificate exists"

ALL Americans who support our nation's Constitution and election laws must now ask: WHERE IS IT? As the Obama birth certificate controversy drags-on, any unbiased observer could tell you that events are strengthening the birthers' case by the day... not the other way around.

Oczam's razor theory dictates that if they can't find it... there must not be one. This would also provide the most viable explanation for why Obama has spent almost $2M fighting the claims in court. And to since it's a principle requirement for presidential eligibility... would someone please tell me WHY the burden of proof is on us? 

How'd this guy even get a passport without a long-form birth certificate, anyway...

"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), "I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate." 

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government." 

Tim Adams

Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health. "My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady." 

Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961." 

"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."

The debate has been recently been amplified by Hawaii's weird hippy Governor Neil Abercrombie -a far-Left freak who was previously a member of the US House Progressive Caucus and a personal friend and college classmate of both of Obama's parents. Abercrombie  made an ill-advised claim during his 2010 gubernatorial campaign that he would soon put a rest to all this, stating he was on a  "mission" to "quell" the birthers- as the polemic has "implications for 2012 that we simply cannot have."

But there is no Obama birth certificate... there never was.  So now he's hiding behind Hawaii's state AG, who says there is a privacy law that prohibits Abercrombie from doing as he promised (unless Obama gave him permission, of course):

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

“There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. 

“Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.” 

Conspirators! That's rich- but condescension and slander coming from nervous Dems does little to re-assure thinking persons that this man is acutally qualified to be US President: on the contrary, this defensive, diversionary behavior speaks volumes. Clearly those propping up this Trojan Horse of a president have nothing left but mocking the inquisitors- but as Margaret Thatcher once said: "... if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." And indeed they do not-

Delving a little farther back, Obama even admitted himself that he wasn't qualified for the presidency in the 2004 Keyes-Obama Senate campaign debate, but the video of this was scrubbed from YouTube, according to Good Ole Boy at RealAmericanPolitics. 

Keyes caught him off guard... and Obama spilled:

I watched the entire first and second debates.  I distinctly remember that I had never heard of Obama; my interest was in seeing what Keyes said about the pro-life issue and school vouchers.

At one point in the second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, “You are not even a natural born citizen!”
To which Obama immediately replied, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.”

At the end of the airing of the second debate, the C-Span host noted, as he read from a single sheet of paper, placed before him, that the Obama Campaign had contacted them and requested them to point out to their viewers that Obama’s response here should not be understood as a denial that he is a natural born citizen, only that Keyes’ accusation had nothing to do with the qualifications of office of a U.S. Senator...

Today... with even Chris Matthews saying "why not just put it out?"- I unapologetically throw my hat in with the birthers... time to cough it up or step-down, Barry. Even is some obscure court ruling keeps Obama in office... this man must not be allowed to run for re-election in 2012. 

And when the day comes when we remove this tumor from the neck of the American eagle... Obama and his accomplices must be punished harshly for not just violation of oath, but the myriad crimes committed in covering-up lack of qualification for US president, up to and including perjury. And that means the entire Obama campaign team, lawyers, and most of the DNC... you're all going to pay dearly for this one.

Get on the stick, GOP congressman... 
where's the subpoenas? 

The survival of American democracy demands justice- and so do we.

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[curiosity]

Both subjects were being discussed and

That's just it: one of them wasn't. No one was claiming Obama was ineligible because of his father's citizenship until after the election. Period.

Yes, people were making other, equally silly, arguments, such as the Kenyan birth story or the loss of citizenship through adoption story. But the specific argument related to not having a citizen father was made up out of whole cloth some time in November of 2008.

That's just a fact, whether you choose to deal with it or not.

[Elderberry]

tiger-one was questioning whether Obama was a Natural Born Citizen way back in 2007.

And the question in 2011 is still unanswered.

[curiosity]

The last 100 years coincides with the introduction and rise of the PROGRESSIVE movement in America.

Okay. How about a civics or history textbook published between the end of the civil war and 1890?

[curiosity]

First of all I don’t know of any school that actually has a “civics” class, let alone what textbooks would be used for one. I had U.S. History, World History, and Social Studies classes where we learned about and discussed the constitution, but never a civics class.

Fine. Show me an example of any textbook in any field that deals with constitutional issues, civics, history, social studies, or law, that defines natural born citizenship as you claim it is defined.

[RegulatorCountry]

That's just it: one of them wasn't. No one was claiming Obama was ineligible because of his father's citizenship until after the election. Period.

I was, as were several others on FR alone. I've corrected you guys before on this false claim.

Lawrence Solum of The Michigan Law Review all but made the same admission well prior to the election as well, albeit inadvertantly. He was so caught up in demonstrating the ineligibility of McCain that he stepped in it with Obama, too.

[rolling_stone]

Fine. Show me an example of any textbook in any field that deals with constitutional issues, civics, history, social studies, or law, that defines natural born citizenship as you claim it is defined.

show me one that defines it the way you claim or any definition.

[curiosity]

The comment at 70 is admittedly ambiguous

Not at all. The poster very clearly indicates his father's citizenship wouldn't matter if he were born in the USA. Period. There is no other possible reading.

[curiosity]

I was, as were several others on FR alone.

Okay, where? Please provide a link.

Lawrence Solum of The Michigan Law Review all but made the same admission well prior to the election as well,

No he did not. Amazing how birthers just love to make things up out of thin air.

[curiosity]

The whole Sammy scandal and the “Michell Obama tape” fiasco went down in Oct of 2008, before the elections, and THAT was all about the ADOPTION of little Barry.

Yes, I'm aware the Indonesian adoption argument has been around since before the election. I never claimed otherwise.

But that's not what we were discussing. We were discussing the argument that Obama is ineligible because his daddy wasn't a US citizen.

That's the argument that no one made before the election.

And that's just a fact. Deal with it.

[David]

I think your definition of "nominal" must differ from mine. Because given his two years in the private sector, Velamoor's starting salary as a federal clerk would've been about $70,000.

Obviously is--he took a pay cut of around a hundred and fifty grand. Doubt that he would have done that without some side compensation scheme.

[Danae]

Why should I bother curiosity? Whats the point?

My Dog Freddie died in 1975, and that has about as much relevance as your pointless nit picking.

You are an irrelevant distraction, and a waste of time. You clearly have no relevant point to make.

Bubai.

[curiosity]

Apparently you are trying to say well no one brought it up so that is evidence that its not true?

Yes. If no one interpreted "natural born citizen" to mean requiring two citizen parents before 2008, that was never the accepted interpretation of the phrase. In a system of law based on precedent, prior interpretation matters.

Carry that into court and I'll watch you get thrown out on your rear.

LOL. That sounds really funny coming from a birther. I surely hope the irony isn't lost on you.

[Danae]

The dude is a waste of time. Zot fodder.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Okay. How about a civics or history textbook published between the end of the civil war and 1890?

I sent you the definition of Native from 1771 from Britannica which you conveniently overlooked, obot troll.

See #323

[curiosity]

Getting a bunch of Google hits after entering two citizen parents and "natural born citizen" doesn't mean the article is making the argument that two citizen parents for natural born citizenship. All it means is the article contains the search words you entered.

As to your other quotes, they're very interesting, but not a single one states that two citizen parents are required for natural born citizenship if the child is born in the USA.

[Electric Graffiti]

No one was claiming Obama was ineligible because of his father's citizenship until after the election. Period."

But his Father was a citizen of Kenya at the time, would that make Obama also a citizen of Kenya with dual citizenship? I read somewhere that he has dual citizenship. Did he ever renounce his Kenyan citizenship

44 posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:56:20 PM by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)"?


From FocusNEXUS' post on this thread on June 28, 2008


I'm sure there are thousands of other examples even earlier. Obama anal remora.

[curiosity]

I sent you the definition of Native from 1771 from Britannica which you conveniently overlooked, obot troll.

That's relevant how?

[rolling_stone]

Besides Obama, what other person has run for president with only one citizen parent and one-non citizen?

[curiosity]

Close, but no cigar.

You found an example of someone who thought Obama had dual citizenship. You have not found an example of someone claiming he's not a natural born citizen because of his father's citizenship.

Try again.

[curiosity]

Besides Obama, what other person has run for president with only one citizen parent and one-non citizen?

Loren, you posted a list somewhere. Mind giving us that link again?

Thanks.