Posted on 01/26/2011 5:57:29 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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...That’s very nice, but it has nothing to do with the argument that Obama can’t be president because his father wasn’t a US citizen....
ROFLMAO you funny, do you believe your own $%$%#@
Here is but one example:
To: Robert Drobot
“Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii,”
Has this been verified to be correct? Is Obama a natural born citizen of the U.S. as required by our Constitution?
In a county of background checks for almost any job, background checks have become a way of life. As anyone seen Obama’s birth certificate and verified it? Would you accept his word he is qualified to be POTUS as defined by our Constitution?
6 posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 4:21:29 AM by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780530/posts#6
So you can't respond to my argument, so you just resort to insults. Typical.
Perhaps what I should have used is a quote from senator Bingham
Yes. Doesn't that have to be the rule? Otherwise, we cede control over our own candidates to the laws of other countries.
Look, the eligibility of someone to be President must be based on our laws, not on the laws of another nation. Otherwise, you give other nations a veto power over who can run for President. Suppose Palin wins the nomination, and Iran passes a law declaring her an Iranian citizen. That makes her a dual citizen, and hence....ineligible?
The most you could do is make a so-called "dual citizen" ineligible if, under the citizenship laws of the U.S., that person could also be considered a citizen of another country. But you just can't have a "no dual citizen" law, or other nations will have a field day messing with us.
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A. Iran "making" citizens out of sovereign U.S. citizens would not be recognized internationally. Second, it definitely wouldn't be recognized in the U.S. Furthermore, following your line, the U.S. congress could then turn around and make everyone on the planet a U.S. citizen. Those scenarios are nonsense.
The "Natural Born Citizen" requirement for the Commander in Chief of the armed forces is, in part, a national security measure. No CinC born with multiple allegiances!
What's that...about $750,000 per page filed?
First of all I don’t know of any school that actually has a “civics” class, let alone what textbooks would be used for one. I had U.S. History, World History, and Social Studies classes where we learned about and discussed the constitution, but never a civics class. As I stated before my teachers used the constitution, and related papers for our discussions about the constitution, not textbooks.
Furthermore, none of the textbooks I had for history and Social Studies classes ever addressed the definition of “natural born citizen”. in fact most didn’t even mention the constitution other than just in passing. My own children have never had a “civics” class either, just history and social studies classes where the constitution was discussed. Their textbooks don’t even mention the clause, and one of them doesn’t even mention the Constitution.
You are the one who made the claim that ALL the civics textbooks for the last 100 years say something different, so why don’t you list all the civics textbooks that actually address the “natural born citizenship” clause for us.
I personally don’t have time to do that much research, but if you can provide us with a list I am sure there are others besides me who would be willing to read through some of the books on your list and see exactly what they say with regard to the definition of “natural born citizen”. Perhaps you could just start with a list of one civics textbook published in each of the last 100 years (1910 through 2010).
I usually read one book each evening before I go to bed so even if no one else wants do help with the reading, I could still probably read through all 100 of them in less than a year if I can obtain a copy of each the books. I have a limited budget, so it would be helpful if you could also let me know which libraries have copies of the civics textbooks.
Both subjects were being discussed and you chose to pick one and ignore the other....you are a disruptor..if you had some real facts instead of argument I might respond to it
Obama will lose this attempt at political dirty trickery and teasing in the court of public opinion.
In the court of public opinion only someone who is guilt and/or a complete and total JERK and sociopath would use common documents as a tool to play joke on their opponents.
Only an unfeeling ass or someone who is guilty would let a decorated officer of 17 years ( and a war veteran) go to prison over proving they are a natural born citizen. In the court of public opinion? GUILTY!
In the court of public opinion only a guilty person or completely unfeeling jerk would waste the time and resources of TAX PAID attorneys at a time when terrorists are plotting to blow up Americans and KILL soldiers on their bases and recruitment centers.
Obama would do the above just so he can go, “n’yah, n’yah - can't make me”? Verdict in the court of public opinion? GUILTY!
No.
While I wholeheartedly agree, as we can see from this thread, many of our fellow citizens are ready to concede eligibility to Barak Hussein Obama.
We must keep fighting to get this to SCOTUS. We need 1 (one) governor, 1 AG, to keep Obama off any state ballot. That will force SCOTUS to intervene, with Team Obama as he plaintiffs. Let them claim "no standing," then!!
Can you provide a single example of a civics textbook published within the last 100 years that says a person born in the USA needs two citizen parents to be considered a natural born citizen?
The last 100 years coincides with the introduction and rise of the PROGRESSIVE movement in America.
See here: Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh), article posted 7/3/2008, reply 70 by socialismisinsidious reply was less than an hour after the article was posted.
The reply of socialismisinsidious is as follows:
To be President one has to be a "native-born citizen" If Obama's Mama gave birth to him in another country then that would make him a "citizen at birth" but not a "native-born citizen" It's worth knowing since its Constitutional and would set precedent that the Libs would love.
Could you try to argue from points of logic rather than emotion?
First, there are numerous lawsuits filed against the U.S. government and/or POTUS on a regular basis. It is the duty of DOJ attorneys to provide a legal defense for the government and/or POTUS in lawsuits filed against either party. So Obama didn’t send out DOJ attorneys by choice and didn’t specifically direct tax dollars to be used to provide his defense.
Secondly, regardless of whether or not we’re at war or being plotted against by terrorists, the DOJ’s function remains the same. It’s not as if the DOJ attorneys who worked on the eligibility lawsuits were taken away from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq or from investigating terrorist bomb plots. There are plenty of U.S. attorneys.
Thirdly, Obama is not an honorable man. We’ve already established that point.
This has to be the best threads I’ve ever seen on this issue. Tons of research is revealed on it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2450158/posts?q=1&;page=1
Enjoy!
For your information. Please update your findings in this matter.
The latest from Ulsterman on January 25, 2011
“White House Insider: Proceed At Your Own Peril”
“After repeated attempts to obtain a followup response to our last communication, our D.C. Insider gives little more than a brief warning to back off the many questions surrounding Barack Obamas birth and citizenship.” ...
http://newsflavor.com/world/usa-canada/white-house-insider-proceed-at-your-own-peril/#ixzz1C7cO666s
Oooooooh, OBambi is going to get us. LoL.
“So Obama didnt send out DOJ attorneys by choice”
BucktoothedKenyan,
Yes he did by not releasing a copy of his long form birth certificate.
Obama will lose this because public pressure will mount. We already see leaks in the dam. Geeze! If Chrisy Matthews wasn't a great big crack then what is? ( eye roll)
Innocent people don't act like Obama. Guilty people do.
**Guilty** people would let a decorated officer and war veteran go to prison. Over what? A birth certificate and few common documents American peasants release routinely?
What innocent, real, natural born, American citizen president would waste and misuse tax paid attorneys at time of terrorist threats and soldiers KILLED on their bases? Huh?
Verdict in the court of public opinion: GUILTY!
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