Posted on 01/26/2011 5:57:29 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
Honolulu most likely. Maybe Chicago, maybe another place he lived. But I am betting it might have been done close to the time he decided to run for St. Senate in Il.
See post 194... its a nut buster.
The constant misspellings are another strange thing.
I e-mailed OIP Director Takase once to ask what exact name the HDOH is referring to when they say “President Obama”, explaining how misspellings and alternate name and initial combinations have obscured the existence of certain records. I got back a lecture about how “President” is an honorary title, blah, blah, blah.
Obfuscation.
I sent the HDOH a request for a listing of any index data they have for Obama, Dunham, Soetoro, Sutoro, etc. They implied that they can only search for one unique name and one unique vital event at a time so they wanted me to list all the combinations, which I did. I said I couldn’t imagine them not having the ability to do a string search, like Google.
Shortly after that they changed their web page to say that it would be $7.50 for every individual search they do - full name and vital event.
I typed out a word and then decided to delete it. I need to watch my mouth.
When I called them on the illegality of their charging for index records without going through the full rule-changing procedure as required by law, they tried for a while to argue with me and then the Ombudsman’s Office apparently got ahold of them and told them they couldn’t do that. So now they require snail mail instead and say they MIGHT charge a fee. And they mysteriously “didn’t receive” requests unless you send it with delivery confirmation.
Sandbagging and gaslighting.
So I never did get my answer regarding what records they have for somebody with a last name of Soetoro or Sutoro.
My belief is rules are rules. The Constitution cannot continue to be ignored, else it gives justification for ignoring other provisions, eg the 10th Amendment.
Furthermore, letting liberals continue on with this charade just enourages them more. Voter fraud is rampant in Democratic strongholds. They don’t care about integrity of the process. It’s always about them. Don’t cut them, their programs, steal from others to give to them. You don’t give them one inch, ever, never. They are childish brats and can’t be trusted with anything, so don’t give in in the first place.
You didn’t read post 194 did you?
Obama created the Birther Movement because he needed a smoke screen for his Immigration status. His adoption by Lolo changed his citizenship, and it is one that Obama has used to travel under as an adult. At BEST he is a Naturalized citizen. This is what the entire birther mockery bs is all about, covering this one simple issue.
I’m not going to waste my time discussing with you. I’ve made my points.
THey did that to me too when I order a copy of my long form. They “lost” it. I resent it with return reciept requested and got the postcard back. They STILL tried to say they didn’t get it, but I had the proof. Thats how I eventually ended up talking with Onaka’s secretary, and Onaka.
No, you've made a lot of assertions that you can't support. It's really too bad that you think the provision of supporting evidence is somehow a "waste of time."
Thus far she has produced about 100,000 times more evidence in support of her beliefs than you have in trying to prove her wrong. All your naysaying anounts to the braying of a donkey in the wild.
Sorry curiosity, but you best drop it now. You lost this round badly.
Sigh. Not the adoption candard again. This one was debunked more than two years ago. There's no evidence he was adopted, and even if he were, it wouldn't have caused him to lose his citizenship.
There neither is, nor was at the time, any provision under US immigration law under which a US citizen child loses his citizenship due to adoption by a foreigner. Period.
and it is one that Obama has used to travel under as an adult.
An allegation for which there is exactly zero evidence.
I ordered a document that cost $20. By the time the Hawaii government (not the HDOH in this case) was done with me I had spent $50 trying to get that record. That’s what we’re dealing with.
What? Did you miss the information presented in the Soetoro Divorce?
Dude, you are missing a LOT of information. A whole lot.
When Obama was adopted, his real father became Lolo, and he inherited his citizenship from Lolo. Thats Hawaiian law, that is why they seal records.
You are now coming off both half cocked and ignorant.
Yep, I paid a total of 27 bucks for my 10$ Long form.
Mahalo! /sarc
In 1961, unlike today, an unwed white teenage girl having a black bastard baby was horribly scorned and embarrassing to the family. Out of wedlock was bad enough back then, but mixed race made it necessary for the family to keep it hushed up.
Another thing, if there was a birth certificate, the father's race would NOT have been written as "African". That is obviously the mistake of some young latter-day leftist politically-correct idiot creating a fraudulent document.
Here’s my followup on Abercrombie... a Soviet sponsored 5th columnist if ever there was one
And did you know Obama’s parents met in RUSSIAN class...?
What kind of people took Russian in 1960?
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2011/01/who-is-useful-doofus-neil-abercrombie.html
People who wanted to work in diplomatic circles or International Politics.
I think it is in the Soetoro Divorce records. I think it might be an inferred deduction. Barry had to be an Indonesian Citizen to go to school. He would have needed a pasport or Birth Certificate to prove that to be the case. Sometimes in solving X + Y = 100 You know x= 43, so Y HAS to = 57.
Once this is understood... it gets a lot harder to debunk it.
The ONLY thing covering Obama now is his refusal, which of course also points to his guilt.
You are right to ask for documentary information. The better its documented, the harder it is going to be to avoid public pressure to resign.
“IF our little Barry was truly born in a Honolulu hospital there was a long form, official with raised seal, signed by attending physician certificate of birth - and it was filed in the normal manner at the Department of Health. Where it remained - UNTIL BARRY WAS ADOPTED BY LOLO SOETORO.”
1.) What would his name be on the new long form Birth Certificate?
2.) Why was there no index data for Barry Soetoro at the HDOH?
3. Was there any index data for Lolo Soetoro/Soebarkah etc.?
4.) As Danae suggested, when Stanely-Ann divorced Lolo, wouldn’t his original ‘vital records’ be unsealed?
5.) If Barry had no records of his birth in Hawaii prior to the adoption, why would Lolo go through the legal mumbo jumbo of adoption in Hawaii?
Re: ...the boy was named “for” Barack Obama of Kenya.
“Senior” spelled his name “Barak.”
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