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The Bonnie Blue Flag redux?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjOIFGrYtaE

1 posted on 10/03/2010 12:21:13 PM PDT by Ronbo1948
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I began thinking about it as I watched a group of talking heads discussing the future of America, as a single entity comprised of 50 states. The consensus was — America will not survive as a 50-state nation. It is a conclusion, which I, unhappily, arrived at years ago.

I am convinced we Americans are being lied to by our government. I am also convinced our economy is on the verge of collapse. Maybe it is just my natural paranoia, but I simply don’t see the “silver lining” inside the dark clouds hanging low over Wall Street and other financial centers in America. I think we are in for a total collapse of our economic system.

What then?

Well, we start over. I mean, literally, we START OVER.

Stand back, mentally, and take an objective look at the country we call the UNITED States of America. Can we really say we are UNITED? I mean, REALLY? If we are truthful we have to admit the union has been strained since its inception. Sure, we were united against the British during The Revolution… and several times since. But that lasted only until around 1840. Things went downhill rapidly in the 1840’s and 1850’s. By the spring of 1861 we are at war, internally, with each other. It was the most vicious war Americans have ever fought. United peoples don’t fight each other; certainly not the way Americans did in the War Between the States.

After four years of the bloodiest war this continent has ever seen, my southern ancestors were forced back into “The UNION” at the point of a bayonet – a bayonet, which was wielded by Federal Government very unlike the federal government the colonies/states created to act as their agent. At that moment — power slipped from the hands of the people into the hands of the government and Americans have never been able to reacquire it, or rescue it, from the grasping fist of that government – a government many now say has gone rogue.

There is an old expression I have heard all my life. It says: “When one door closes, another door opens.” If that is the case, then we Americans may have a chance, and fairly soon, to set aright much that has been wrong with our country since the middle of the 19th century.

The State Sovereignty Movement has been underway for many months now and the last report I saw had the figure at close to two-dozen states already involved, to one degree or another. That is close to HALF the states! For more on the State Sovereignty Movement go HERE.

No, I don’t think there will be another civil war in America. I think we learned our lesson from the last one. I have come to believe that, when the time comes, we will simply agree to separate. I’m not sure, geographically, how that will play out. But, it will not, necessarily, be a north/south split. Some think the northeastern states will most likely join with Canada. Frankly, I am not so sure. I see the northeastern states becoming the country of “New England.” a socialist nation.

To say that the Old Confederacy will re-emerge, is a bit of a stretch. Although, there is at least one group, I am aware of, that would certainly like to see that. But we are a different people than our confederate ancestors. Having said that, I DO believe, however, that many of the contiguous southern states will make an attempt at forming a country of their own.

Texas will, most likely, revert back to a republic. I’d have to guess that the mid-western states, where the labor unions have such a death grip, would form some sort of union as a socialist confederation of some sort. The plains states and the mountain states, well, I have no idea what they will do, but I do see them forming a country of their own – a republic of some sort.

The states of the west coast will, no doubt, become a socialist/Marxist nation more closely allied with Red China than with it’s former sister states.

Taking a closer look at the southern tier of states I can see them adopting the original US Constitution and making an effort to revive the original country, with the original government, as the founders of the US had intended (as they made clear so many times in the Federalist Papers).

So, there is the possibility what we now refer to, as the USA will become 4 or even 5 different countries. Which of the new nations will blossom and thrive? My money will be on the southern states… if they heed the mistakes of their forbearers and make every effort not to make those mistakes again.

The important thing is to be able to live peaceably with each other on this continent. That will be no mean task, for when the socialist states begin to fail; there will be a huge migration of their citizens to the southern states. That will create immense friction between the states.
This is not an easy thing to contemplate. It is, most assuredly, unpleasant to talk about. But each of us needs to evaluate our principles and determine our own paths into the future.

Obama told us plainly, during his campaign for President, that he intended to “fundamentally” change America. If he has not accomplished anything else, he has certainly accomplished that.


2 posted on 10/03/2010 12:44:20 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ronbo1948

Sounds good to me!


3 posted on 10/03/2010 12:45:20 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Ronbo1948

Anti-American bookmark.


4 posted on 10/03/2010 12:48:11 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Ronbo1948

Yawn - not exactly original.

The Japanese are waaay ahead of you.
http://ghostintheshell.wikia.com/wiki/American_Empire

and

This lists the ‘new’ world.
http://www.serenadawn.com/GITS-The%20World.htm

THis was triggered by WWIII, a nuke exchnage that kiled a lot of folks, to say the least. The Manga crowd have a lot of imagination, and some of what they point to exists today.

What fun, eh?


9 posted on 10/03/2010 1:12:10 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Ronbo1948

Based on my sightings of all the Yankee refugees fleeing south, it has already happened


21 posted on 10/03/2010 1:51:44 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: Ronbo1948
Who's behind this? China's the obvious answer. With the US out of the way, they'd be top country.

But we owe China a lot of money, and so long as there's anyway the United States can repay, they'll want to keep the government intact.

So I guess the answer is home-grown morons.

The country wouldn't breakup into two parts with all the liberals in one half and all the conservatives in the other. Right now many Southerners vote against the North and many Northerners against the South.

That's gone if the country goes. There would be political realignments in whatever new countries develop.

I doubt you'd find labor unions running things in an independent New England. They certainly don't dominate in politics now, and there's little reason why they would if circumstances changed.

On the other hand, you might find labor unions gaining in power in an independent South. And you'd have one big battle between Southern working people and libertarian/business enthusiasts over immigration. When that hits you'll see just how bitter divides within the South will be.

22 posted on 10/03/2010 2:08:46 PM PDT by x
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We would be better off splitting the country up. The Founders of course designed federalism so that would not be necessary but the liberals are intent upon nationalizing everything so that pretty much makes it impossible to make the system work as intended. They can’t resist imposing their mandates on people who do not want them and the only solution is therefore independence.


23 posted on 10/03/2010 2:14:53 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Not only would the United States fracture but so would many states. Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon are very conservative. Up to 75% so. They would never willingly join an ultra liberal new socialist west coast nation. They would more likely join with Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Nevada minus Las Vegas, Utah, western Colorado and Arizona in a new republic.


26 posted on 10/03/2010 2:36:37 PM PDT by DWar (The perfect is the enemy of the excellent!!)
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I hereby pledge the Great State of Ohio to the new Confederacy of America!


27 posted on 10/03/2010 2:37:45 PM PDT by gotribe (Time to partea)
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To: Ronbo1948

People that believe this sh*t are idiots. They are most certainly neither patriots, conservatives nor Americans.


31 posted on 10/03/2010 3:19:06 PM PDT by montanajoe
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You fight for the select states you want to, that’s your decision. As for me, I’m gonna fight for all 50 of them.

This is the UNITED States of America, and I’ll be DAMNED if I’ll surrender even one of them to the enemy.


82 posted on 10/03/2010 7:11:38 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Obama, Pelosi and Reid - the Trio of Twits)
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To: Ronbo1948; central_va; Idabilly; cowboyway; southernsunshine
Pop Quiz for the “coven” and friends;

What plans do you have to repay that big fat national debt Barry & Co. have run up, without taxing generations of productive Americans into bankruptcy? I don't see the Biblical remedy of a year of Jubilee on the political landscape, do you?

90 posted on 10/03/2010 9:08:11 PM PDT by mstar
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I see the northeastern states becoming the country of “New England.” a socialist nation.

If it weren't for the conservative voting Southern states the northeast, with their comrades on the left coast, would have already forced the nation into a communist regime.

110 posted on 10/04/2010 6:21:33 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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Hey, wait until us freepers trapped behind enemy lines can get down there. You can trade us for any metrosexuals that snuck in down there.
147 posted on 10/04/2010 1:07:44 PM PDT by McGruff (I Love the Smell of Desperation in the Morning. Smells like Victory!)
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The South’s Gonna Rise Again!

Are you saying the South is going back to being RAT?

171 posted on 10/04/2010 3:46:39 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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"The south will rise again!"

And do what? Lose again?

192 posted on 10/04/2010 7:31:01 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Pablo is very whiney)
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I think I remember that song...you know, the one with the fiddle.

So gather round, gather round chillen'
Get down, well just get down chillen'
Get loud, well you can be loud and be proud
Well you can be proud, hear now
Be proud you're a rebel
'Cause the South's gonna do it again and again.

194 posted on 10/04/2010 7:53:18 PM PDT by conimbricenses (Red means run son, numbers add up to nothing.)
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I will follow Texas. Where ever she leads.


196 posted on 10/04/2010 8:17:20 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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That’s a great clip on the Bonnie Blue flag, but ruined thanks to that idiot cameo by Ted Turner.


229 posted on 10/05/2010 10:16:50 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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Do those in the south do anything but write about, "Taking it back"?

Where's the beef?

454 posted on 10/06/2010 5:12:39 PM PDT by dragnet2
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