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OBAMA'S BORDER TROUBLES (The "Death Blow" to Obama's COLB fraud)
TheDrRJP Channel ^ | 07/31/2010 | Dr. Ron Polland

Posted on 07/31/2010 9:37:35 PM PDT by Polarik

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To: Polarik

BTW, I note we have moved this conversation to the smokey backroom, so don’t be shy now.


61 posted on 08/01/2010 8:56:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: tutstar

I can show you. I asked you which thing you want proof of/for. Your wish is my command.


62 posted on 08/01/2010 8:59:23 PM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: MestaMachine
Which dispute? The one where he accused a long time, respected, good freeper of forging her own certificate of birth?

And WHO are you referring to. Are you talking about Danae???

63 posted on 08/02/2010 10:29:53 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Hardraade; Jean S
- There's good indications that he's somewhat connected to Phil Berg.

So what???

Seems that Mario Apuzzo relates more to him!!!

64 posted on 08/02/2010 10:41:12 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: MestaMachine; Polarik; All
Furthermore, anyone here who received those evil emails setting Danae up behind her back on polarik’s bogus say so, then sat back and let him rip her to shreds while you all had a shark feeding frenzy at her expense, should hang your heads in shame. And if you let him revive what he so humbly called “Polarik’s army” that he could sic on anyone who disagreed with him, I question your judgement. BIG time.

IIRC didn't they both smoked from the same "peace-pipe" a while ago?

Shouldn't it be more productive if FReepers could unite around the common cause to remove this impostor from office??

Will pettiness or enviousness move any mountains???

65 posted on 08/02/2010 10:51:43 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco
Shouldn't it be more productive if FReepers could unite around the common cause to remove this impostor from office??

You think that mustering experts on internet love posing as tech experts is gonna remove odumbo from office?

All it does is provide ammo for segment of the population, press and political punditry singling FR out as a laughinstock and the haunt of "crazy birthers". Never mind that the questions about Obama are legitimate; this sort of thing cuts the feet under them.

66 posted on 08/02/2010 11:14:15 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade; MestaMachine; Polarik; All
All it does is provide ammo for segment of the population, press and political punditry singling FR out as a laughinstock and the haunt of "crazy birthers". Never mind that the questions about Obama are legitimate; this sort of thing cuts the feet under them.

Says WHO???

67 posted on 08/02/2010 1:08:43 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco
Says WHO???

Hard of hearing, are we? Go have your needs analyzed. It's just $2 a minute.

Polarik-advice-two-bucks

Tell him I sent you, maybe I'll get that free 5 minutes.

68 posted on 08/02/2010 1:16:55 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: MestaMachine
Please explain why anyone would go to that much trouble to forge a document that Hawaii provides on self-swearing alone...using the information provided by the applicant.

Please explain why I should respond to your illiberate crap?

Illiberate. n. An illiterate liberal.

Why was this forgery made? Did you just crawl out from under a rock?

Because it fooled 50 million people into believing it was conclusive proof that he was born in Hawaii.

Because Hawaii already has a birth record for Obama along with amendments that mustbe included on the COLB.

Because they can do, pretty much, whatever they please as long as people like you condone it.

Because you are a troll who is incapable of rational thought or carrying on a civil discussion.

This has absolutely nothing to do with who obama is or why he refuses to produce an actual long form BC.

And what you said has nothing to do with rational thinking.

Furthermore, everyone in the entire state of Hawaii is not corrupt. If there was an actual forgery, someone would be all over it like a fly on sh!t.

Typical liberal illogic and ignorance. This COLB forgery has effectively precluded the release of an actual original birth certificate for the past two years. Who, exactly, is that "someone?" on an island where over 70% of the residents support Obama? This is the same old liberal garbage we've been hearing for over two years. It goes like this:

If this was a forgery, then don't you think ______?

Fill in the blank with the non sequitur of your choice.

If this was a forgery, then don't you think Hillary would have done something?

If this was a forgery, then don't you think McCai9n would have used it?

If this was a forgery, then don't you think I'm an idiot for asking a bogus rhetorical question?

I never said that the "entire State of Hawaii is corrupt." I doubt if anyone said that. I singled out one person who has total control over the the Hawaii Health Department, and whose statements (all two of them) apparently trump the Constitution in the minds of the brain-dead liberals. Because of this one person, we have a fraud in the White House.

Now, don't you think that Fukino would be fish food if she said that Obama was not born in Hawaii? did not dawn on you, did it?

It doesn’t need to be a forgery to be a fraud.

It doesn't need to be edible for someone like you to swallow it. You can call it anything you like - except real.

This is a red herring. You are NOT court vetted, as you claim.

Yes, I am an expert witness.

and I wonder what your personal interest is in promoting this version, different from your old version.

It is called "research," and it evolves over time - quite unlike your species. ...and really, REALLY different...slimed a good freeper ...UNFORGED scan...actual COLB ...on FR... a forgery, a fake, a fraud, when it wasn’t.

Next time, could you please translate that in English? ,p> Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, ever post a copy of the COLB she sent me? NO!

Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, ever post any copy of her COLB on FR? NO!

Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, insist it was a 2000 COLB that was date-stamped March 2007? YES!

Is it possible for a 2007 COLB to look like a 2000 COLB? - only if it was a forgery.

Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, believe me when I said it was a 2007 COLB, and not a 2000? NO! In fact, she would have none of it. Did that "Good FReeper," aka Danae, play me and everyone else on FR? You're darn right she did.

Make no mistake - this alleged UNFORGED COLB was nothing of the sort: it was intentionally manipulated to look the way it did. And, since the only way for this 2007 COLB to look like a 2000 COLB is via forgery - especially when the owner of said COLB repeatedly insisted it was a 2000 COLB, and DID NOT COME CLEAN until I brought it to everyone's attention - everyone except the ping list who I predicted would act this way.

Do I appreciate Danae calling me a fraud? No, not when it was her alleged "mistake" that started the deception in the first place.

You can make Einstein sound like an idiot on Relativity by going back far enough before he came up with E=mc2. This is a prime example of liberal dishonesty - going back in time until they find something in the past that they - not us - feel is a counterargument.

Bring up present-day Islamic terrorism, they will bring up the Crusades.

Mention anything about Obama, they will bring up Bush or Reagan.

What is my personal interest in promoting this version? Obama is promoting this version. His Administration is promoting this version. The mainstream media is promoting this version. All of the Obot trolls are promoting this version. I'm merely duplicating it.

69 posted on 08/02/2010 7:28:39 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: danamco

Basically, the message that these two idiots need to hear is to take their sh** over to MediaMatters.org. They’d be glad to have them.


70 posted on 08/02/2010 7:44:51 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: Hardraade

I can already tell what are your needs. Puberty, for starters.


71 posted on 08/02/2010 7:46:48 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: MestaMachine

What are you going to show, Ms. Dingbat Lady? All of Dianna’s personal information that she asked me not to show?

Are you going to make me go back on my promise to Dianna?

Are you going to make me post all of the emails she sent?

IMHO, I think that she would very much like you to shut the heck up.


72 posted on 08/02/2010 7:57:38 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: Hardraade

I have not been with Berg since Dec. 2008.

FReepers know that. Stupid new trolls do not.

Large Internet footprint?

It’s no bigger than the one you’ve got in your mouth.


73 posted on 08/02/2010 8:01:54 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: Polarik

Just wow. You were wrong. Period. I have never seen such a convoluted bunch of spew in my life.
You say you are an expert witness. In what court, on what case, at what time in your life?


74 posted on 08/02/2010 8:14:27 PM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Polarik

It’s moments like this that make me wonder why we bother - I also suffered through that stupid episode, during which the poster insisted and insisted and insisted...that the date-stamped 2007 CoLB she presented, was ISSUED in 2000.

When finally, after tempers frayed as the result of the only possible conclusion...that what she had shown could only be a forgery...IF WHAT SHE INSISTED WAS CORRECT...

SHE WROTE AND SAID SHE HAD DISCOVERED HER MISTAKE AND APOLOGIZED!

But was that end of it? No. The poster THEN expected an apology from YOU!

And that’s as much as I recall...or wish to remember. Makes me wonder...what’s the difference between an obot and an idiot? Sometimes it’s impossible to tell..


75 posted on 08/02/2010 8:17:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Polarik
Large Internet footprint?

Very large. With galoshes on ;).

76 posted on 08/02/2010 8:34:54 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Polarik

oooo. nasty.
No one can “make” you do anything, Ron. I don’t care about it that much except that you were wrong on the main point. I care about Free Republic and the damage you do. So answer the questions I asked you and stop trying to change the subject. What court? What are you an “expert” in? When? Simple stuff like that.
Like have you donated anything at all to FR for the privilege of making this your virtual office, Doc?
In your book, are you gonna credit all the people on FR who researched all the little things you asked them to?
When did you become a document and image expert?
You tried to do what, exactly after you and Berg split up?
In all your stuff, I never once saw in your qualifications that you were a forensics expert. It is obvious that you went to a great deal of trouble to forge a COLB though, by your own admission.
And you have called yourself an expert on many other things unrelated to this. So exactly what are you an expert witness for? And what court vetted you?
Calling me names isn’t an answer. As for hardraade, I don’t speak for him and he doesn’t speak for me.
I think he probably found you all by himself. Just like I did. I just started sooner before you started snatching stuff up.


77 posted on 08/02/2010 8:42:22 PM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: Fred Nerks

You might wish to remember that he said it was a FORGERY. It wasn’t. THAT is the point. Actually, that is the only point. Not whose it was. Not when it was made. Not why. And if he was wrong, he was wrong. He was wrong. It was NOT a forgery.
You are one of the people I do not want to argue with. I have respected you and your genuine research throughout all of this. I have not asked anyone else into this, and a threat to publish Danae’s personal information is obscene on its face.


78 posted on 08/02/2010 8:55:00 PM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: MestaMachine; Polarik

IIRC I think I have seen Danae admitting she was wrong in her “words” with Polarik, so what are YOU trying to accomplish?


79 posted on 08/02/2010 8:58:28 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Polarik

Are you going to make me go back on my promise to Dianna?

Are you going to make me post all of the emails she sent?

IMHO, I think that she would very much like you to shut the heck up.
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Are you threatening me, Ron? Sure sounds like it.


80 posted on 08/02/2010 9:00:00 PM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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