Abe Lincoln was a dictator??? (Need Help combating loony argument)

[erod]

Hi FRiends,

I have two brothers who I love very much, they’re young and libertarian Ron Paul supporters, sigh. We get along and I’m hoping that one day they’ll come back to conservatism, but they have bought into a theory that I don’t think makes much sense:

Abe Lincoln was a dictator.

There are many websites dedicated to this nonsense you can Google "Abe Lincoln dictator" and get some weird stuff, if you want to check it out.

I need your help in busting this myth are there any books I can read on this subject to dispel this stuff? Do you know any of the arguments to combat this nonsense? Ie. Lincoln did not want to free the slaves.

Thanks for taking time out of your day to help me out, -Erod

[southernsunshine]

(It won’t let me put and whoever else in on this thread in the To: box)

Now, tonka truck,

This is an ambush. It’s quite obvious to everyone that my faculties are....well.....are....uhm, just missing today. And don’t give me any lip over it. You missed my point but, I’ll chew on your rear end about that tomorrow!

I am not surrendering! This is not a white flag! Every good soldier gets some R&R at times and right now I’m officially on R&R! So keep that sword sharp and that musket cleaned, cause you’re gonna need it tomorrow.

I don’t know if everything is spelled right or formatted right or not and I just don’t care. I can’t read or write.

And everybody....that html sandbox ain’t for playing in, that’s a dadburn sand trap!@#!@!$!#$ Hit it with every 9 iron I’ve got! Who ever heard of all these <<>><><><//i/ii! Why can’t we just use “ and a mouse!@$!@$@# Good Grief!

Now, I think I’ll go to Laz’s post. I think that’s where I belong today.

[mojitojoe]

Don’t flatter yourself, and next time check before you open your mouth and sound like a paranoid fool. I was posting on the Labradoodle thread and I saw your post. You.... are a whiny sissy.

[Idabilly]

[central_va]

To wit any possible future unpleasantness: What I want to know: are these FR Neo-Yankees gonna end the occupation peacefully this time, or take up arms agaist fellow "Conservatives" for "preservation" purposes?

These Yahoos may not be good examples of the Neo-Yankee statist, still I'd like to know.

[central_va]

Improvments:

No. 5 Replace "ill conceived" with "unconstitutional"

Add:

No. 15 Teach proper (true) history; not some damn Lincoln Hero worship BS Kool-aid in our locally controlled public schools.

[central_va]

No. 16 Outlaw welfare, trade unions and food stamps

[central_va]

Mr. Billy, This poster on secession is so good it’s worth it’s own thread. Maybe Friday at 10:00 So Rush and Levin can read our comments. Did you know Levin read “Lincoln is Shot” on his radio show that day...

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

You let us know when “this time” comes. You guys are the rebels who cried wolf. No one believes you anymore. You’re just going to keep sitting behind your keyboards blustering about how unfair it is that you got your asses handed to you 150 years ago and that one of these days, just you wait, any day now, you’re going to show us.

[central_va]

You let us know when “this time” comes. You guys are the rebels who cried wolf. No one believes you anymore. You’re just going to keep sitting behind your keyboards blustering about how unfair it is that you got your asses handed to you 150 years ago and that one of these days, just you wait, any day now, you’re going to show us.

Again. You dodge. Why respect for the NeoYankee is impossible for me to obtain. It is a simple question that all of us Neo Rebs have answered. Not one of you Sherman wannabes will deign to answer....

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

It's not worth answering because it's like asking what I'm going to do when zombies attack. It's a fantasy.

But I've said before and I'll say again, that if your state, in convention assembled, petitions congress to be released from the union, and an equitable arrangement regarding federal property, debt, etc, can be reached, I'll be more than happy to tell my representatives to vote to let you go. If, on the other hand, you do what you did last time, simply announcing your self gone, seizing federal property and opening fire when it's not handed over to you on your demand, then we're going to have a problem. But you and I know that that's never going to happen, because for all your yapping, you neo-secesstionists are a miniscule number of folks who have virtually no popular support, much less a majority in any state.

[central_va]

But you and I know that that's never going to happen, because for all your yapping, you neo-secesstionists are a miniscule number of folks who have virtually no popular support, much less a majority in any state.

If you knew history secession starts quickly and spreads like wildfire. It goes from nowhere to bye-bye real quick. Right now, seems like a fantasy. It hasn't got ugly enough, yet.

So, if a state has been paying taxes for 200 years, hasn't the bill been paid for the property? I say yes.

[Non-Sequitur]

I guess I don’t really care about the Klan and I’m not obsessed with race like you are and I don’t give a sh*t about slavery.

No, your obsession lies in other areas.

[Non-Sequitur]

I’d bet that fella would whoop all four of ya!

Yeah, he might gum us into submission.

Q: How do you know the tooth brush was invented in the South?
A: Because if it had been invented in the North it would have been called a teeth brush.

[Non-Sequitur]

Don’t flatter yourself, and next time check before you open your mouth and sound like a paranoid fool. I was posting on the Labradoodle thread and I saw your post. You.... are a whiny sissy.

And you are an obnoxious stalker.

[central_va]

< hypothetically > Do you really think an agreement between all 50 states and their legislatures that would let a state(s) have their sovereignty would be recognized by the President and Congress? You have been smoking something then...< /hypothetically >

[Non-Sequitur]

To wit any possible future unpleasantness: What I want to know: are these FR Neo-Yankees gonna end the occupation peacefully this time, or take up arms agaist fellow "Conservatives" for "preservation" purposes?

I'm going to follow the third option: sit back with a beer and laugh at you and your buddies as you talk about how you're going to secede someday...maybe...when you get around to it...good Lord willing an the crick don't rise...real soon now...you just watch...getting ready...here we go...any day now...

[central_va]

It could happen faster than you think. If November goes badly for the right wing, watch out.

[Non-Sequitur]

It could happen faster than you think. If November goes badly for the right wing, watch out.

Watch out? I wouldn't miss it.

[central_va]

I’m sure it will be in all the papers/blogs.

[Idabilly]

"Keep yir version of “freedom”, ye damn fool libruls ‘n no-account neocons. We secesh remnants will keep ours - and practice it whether y’all make it legal or illegal – while we take the long, long view of history, at th' side of others whom ye’ve marginalized, such as th’ Serbs. As General Robert E. Lee wrote, “it is history that teaches us to hope,” and it is in akkordance with such hope that we look forward t’ the day that either we or our descendants daince on y’all’s graves."

Signed: Snaggle-Tooth Jones

Ain't no arguing that!!