Posted on 04/19/2010 8:18:35 AM PDT by erod
Hi FRiends,
I have two brothers who I love very much, they’re young and libertarian Ron Paul supporters, sigh. We get along and I’m hoping that one day they’ll come back to conservatism, but they have bought into a theory that I don’t think makes much sense:
Abe Lincoln was a dictator.
There are many websites dedicated to this nonsense you can Google "Abe Lincoln dictator" and get some weird stuff, if you want to check it out.
I need your help in busting this myth are there any books I can read on this subject to dispel this stuff? Do you know any of the arguments to combat this nonsense? Ie. Lincoln did not want to free the slaves.
Thanks for taking time out of your day to help me out, -Erod
Likewise if there is 'at least one' southern abolitionist that can be documented then of course the entire antebellum South was a hotbed of antislavery activity.
It wasn't just about antislavery activity. It was also about the "regular folk", just like us, who were fed up with the political class and the elite. There is so much more to all of it. Here's a great book, if you care to read it. New York Times bestselling author Sally Jenkins and distinguished Harvard professor John Stauffer mine a nearly forgotten piece of Civil War history and strike gold in this surprising account of the only Southern county to secede from the Confederacy. The State of Jones is a true story about the South during the Civil Warthe real South. Not the South that has been mythologized in novels and movies, but an authentic, hardscrabble place where poor men were forced to fight a rich mans war for slavery and cotton. In Jones County, Mississippi, a farmer named Newton Knight led his neighbors, white and black alike, in an insurrection against the Confederacy at the height of the Civil War. Knights life story mirrors the little-known story of class struggle in the Southand it shatters the image of the Confederacy as a unified front against the Union. This riveting investigative account takes us inside the battle of Corinth, where thousands lost their lives over less than a quarter mile of land, and to the dreadful siege of Vicksburg, presenting a gritty picture of a war in which generals sacrificed thousands through their arrogance and ignorance. Off the battlefield, the Newton Knight story is rich in drama as well. He was a man with two loves: his wife, who was forced to flee her home simply to survive, and an ex-slave named Rachel, who, in effect, became his second wife. It was Rachel who cared for Knight during the war when he was hunted by the Confederates, and, later, when members of the Knight clan sought revenge for the disgrace he had brought upon the family name. Working hand in hand with John Stauffer, distinguished chair and professor of the History of American Civilization at Harvard University, Sally Jenkins has made the leap from preeminent sportswriter to a historical writer endowed with the accuracy, drive, and passion of Doris Kearns Goodwin. The result is Civil War history at its finest.
If you format part of your post with HTML you are obligated to do all of it. That may be why your paragraph breaks aren’t carrying through from the preview window to the “published” post...
Actually, it was a northron issue:
LMAO!! Nobody has to collect information on you, fool. You freely give it daily for all the world to read. I hadn’t been on FR for a week when you started your BS. Other FReepers freepmailed me and told me you were a long time troll, and THEY had plenty of information on YOU long before I even knew FR existed. So stop your whining and keep posting about slavery which is what you LIVE to do. Why? I have no clue. It’s odd..... very odd.
Oh and by the way, your dogs is ugly. You can call it a fancy name, but in fact, it’s still a mutt,
I’ve never know anyone but you on FR that wished he could be kneeling in front of NS.
The Klan has returned to its roots
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How would you know? You a member?
Nice. I can always count on you to keep it classy...
Yes, I can read that, but what makes you think that posters here were unaware that there were lots and lots of loyal Americans living in the South during the ACW?
IIRC General Sherman had a special detachment of Southern cavalry as his personal guards during his famous march to the sea.
I'll bet you kin did some capturing? I surely hope your car & dog are more 'man like' than n-s displayed..
Doing a cut-n-paste from a Barnes and Noble or Amazon.com synopsis doesn't help, either. The paragraph breaks don't come through with the copy.
You offering to let me join?
Besides you don't need to be a member to know the history of the Klan. It started as a bunch of ex-confederates and its returned to being a bunch of confederate wannabes. No secret in that.
And they kicked the butts of all your rebel natives. Must be a constant source of embarrassment for you.
See what I mean? The boob sits around all day and stalks me. Follows me from thread to thread and writes down information on me. Then he files it away in his little cabinet and goes looking some more. And they accuse me of having no life.
DeBow? Okay. It appears what you did was a Google books search on "southern states considering emancipation prior to 1830." What you got was an article in one of DeBow's many journals arguing that, because of the natural increase of black slaves in the south, they were facing a danger "...and come it must--when the two races will join in the death struggle for the mastery." Instead, the author suggests, "means be devised for gradually relieving the slaves states from the undue pressure of this class upon them...some way be opened by which they may be rid of their surplus black population...." His idead is that they could sell them to Brazil, since the end of the Portuguese slave trade had left them starving for slaves.
"The valley of the Amazon is the way; it is the safety valve of the Union. It is slave territory and a wilderness. One among the many results of the line of steamers is the entire suppression of African slave tad with Brazil, by a substitution therefor of a slave emigration from the United States. At least so it appears to us.The same journal also gives, on page 53, gives us a nice dissertation on the physical differences of blacks and biblical justification of slavery as the natural, God-ordained place for blacks and a subject that the south will not discuss because it is an "imperative necessity."
What I'm not seeing anywhere is any indication that any southern state legislature actually proposed and debated a law ending slavery, as you claim there was.
"Loyal American". America is a 'Continent'! The South/My family fought to rid themselves from liberals.. like yourself!
Bubba - is from Illinois and now Commiefornia
NON-SENSE- is from Obamaland (Illinois)
Yapper dog - Blue Stater
The whole lot of ya are Holier Than Thou liberal fascist
You might not want your southern compatriots to see that part.
I guess I don’t really care about the Klan and I’m not obsessed with race like you are and I don’t give a sh*t about slavery. I didn’t do it, I wasn’t even born.
I’d bet that fella would whoop all four of ya!
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