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Abe Lincoln was a dictator??? (Need Help combating loony argument)

Posted on 04/19/2010 8:18:35 AM PDT by erod

Hi FRiends,

I have two brothers who I love very much, they’re young and libertarian Ron Paul supporters, sigh. We get along and I’m hoping that one day they’ll come back to conservatism, but they have bought into a theory that I don’t think makes much sense:

Abe Lincoln was a dictator.

There are many websites dedicated to this nonsense you can Google "Abe Lincoln dictator" and get some weird stuff, if you want to check it out.

I need your help in busting this myth are there any books I can read on this subject to dispel this stuff? Do you know any of the arguments to combat this nonsense? Ie. Lincoln did not want to free the slaves.

Thanks for taking time out of your day to help me out, -Erod


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To: Non-Sequitur
Oh, and I forgot to ask - if you are so certain of your 'facts,' why do you debate yourself?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2484139/posts?q=1&;page=1007#1019

In reality, as I've noted previously (on multiple occasions), you're an "extremist whack-job"...

;>)

1,161 posted on 04/27/2010 3:05:08 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: Who is John Galt?
When I advised you that you were, in essence, a liar ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2484139/posts?q=1&;page=1051#1063 ), you simply ignored the issue.

And I just considered the source.

But for the record I'm assuming you can't come up with any quotes from the Supreme Court where they called Lincoln a tyrant? The Toad is on his own?

1,162 posted on 04/27/2010 5:43:29 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Who is John Galt?
n reality, as I've noted previously (on multiple occasions), you're an "extremist whack-job"...

And I have no doubt that the Lost Causers around here are all grunting and nodding their noggins and agreeing with you. You're their new king.

1,163 posted on 04/27/2010 5:45:47 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
WIJG: When I advised you that you were, in essence, a liar ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2484139/posts?q=1&;page=1051#1063 ), you simply ignored the issue.

N-S: And I just considered the source.

And ignored the issue, as noted above. You, sir, are a liar. Proven in print. End of story.

;>)

But for the record...

Is that the same record that proves you're a liar? Just wanting to clarify the issue "for the record"...

;>)

...I'm assuming you can't come up with any quotes from the Supreme Court where they called Lincoln a tyrant? The Toad is on his own?

See my Post 1,160: you seem to have a problem with plain English - and with the facts. But then, that's not news to anyone who has read your posts here...

;>)

1,164 posted on 04/27/2010 6:08:03 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: Non-Sequitur
WIJG: [I]n reality, as I've noted previously (on multiple occasions), you're an "extremist whack-job"...
N-S: And I have no doubt that the Lost Causers around here are all grunting and nodding their noggins and agreeing with you. You're their new king.

And yet another non sequitur from Non-Sequitur.

;>)

1,165 posted on 04/27/2010 6:11:28 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Sometimes I have to break the law in order to meet my management objectives." - Bill Calkins, BLM)
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To: Who is John Galt?
And ignored the issue, as noted above. You, sir, are a liar. Proven in print. End of story.

So you seem to think. I guess I'll just have to learn to live with your disapproval.

Is that the same record that proves you're a liar? Just wanting to clarify the issue "for the record"...

Nope. Must be a different one. But regardless of which record we're talking about I'm assuming you can't save the Toad and come up with a quote or two?

See my Post 1,160: you seem to have a problem with plain English - and with the facts. But then, that's not news to anyone who has read your posts here...

Yes, yes, yes, you called me a liar. Big deal. What am I supposed to do? Deny it? Spend hours dredging through a year or two of your inane posts looking for that quote like mojitojoe does? No thanks. Your opinion of me and your claims about my honesty or lack of it means nothing to me. No more than my opinion of you means to you.

Well it's been pleasant as always, Galt. I always look forward to you joining these threads. All you Lost Causers leave me feeling glad that I'm not one of you or in any way related to any of you. But you bring out those feelings most of all.

1,166 posted on 04/27/2010 6:26:03 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; southernsunshine; CodeToad; mojitojoe; cowboyway; manc; central_va
Southern Belle -"by Heritage not Hate Productions"

Mr. Food stamp himself... Non-Sequitur - ROTFLMAO!!!

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What's so humorous, Non-Sequitur?

This song fits my feelings towards you and yours!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuJe7dQ03R0&feature=related

1,167 posted on 04/27/2010 7:41:35 PM PDT by Idabilly (Oh, southern star how I wish you would shine.)
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To: cowboyway

If DC keeps pushing and going against the states then it’s not gong to get pretty.


1,168 posted on 04/27/2010 7:48:10 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: central_va

also right after the war he gave a black woman flowers and said he hoped we would all come together now as races of which some did not like him doing that but Gen Forrest was always his own man of which I like


1,169 posted on 04/27/2010 7:49:49 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Who is John Galt?

of which I do not give him any attention.

obviously he has way too much time on his hands and appears to not have a life outside of here as he seems to always be on here.

reminds of a college kid or one who has just left school and has no job but mummy and daddy but maybe just mummy is still feeding him and cooking meals while he lives at their house


1,170 posted on 04/27/2010 7:52:31 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The Toad is on his own?

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You have some sort of complex don't you? Despite your elitist ass being handed to you on a silver platter time after time, you come back for more beatings.

Never knew of anyone that liked getting smacked upside their head as much as you.

1,171 posted on 04/27/2010 7:59:26 PM PDT by Idabilly (Oh, southern star how I wish you would shine.)
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To: Idabilly

He’s a liberal, meaning mentally-ill. He cannot possibly read the book The Real Lincoln as his eyeballs would burst into flames. He must only read things that proclaim Lincoln to be the greatest ever.


1,172 posted on 04/27/2010 8:25:32 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: wideawake
I apologize for the tardiness of this post.

Thank you for coming to the defense of the United States of America. As a Southerner whose ancestors fought for the Union (as many Southerners did), I resent the Slavocrat claims that Obama is merely Lincoln returned and that prior to Lincoln Jeffersonian loose construction was the "official" and "true" interpretation of the Constitution.

Ironically, one of the best books demolishing Jeffersonianism and the Confederacy is by Pat Buchanan: The Great Betrayal. Other than avoiding the issue of the Central Bank (because we all "know" who really controls Central Banks), Buchanan seems a thorough Hamiltonian. Of course, so is LaRouche (and LaRouche even wants the Bank).

1,173 posted on 04/27/2010 8:28:46 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vaydabber Mosheh 'et-mo`adey HaShem; 'el-Beney Yisra'el.)
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To: Idabilly

Mr. Food stamp himself... Non-Sequitur - ROTFLMAO!!!

Now I’m ROTFLMAO. You do have a way with words:)


1,174 posted on 04/27/2010 9:10:16 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: central_va

“Based on the confederate leadership’s record of racism, this could explain the lack of rebel documentation.”

Ask NS why the Union had segregated troops! And why the Union pressed the Blacks into service after the Confederacy already had them serving in integrated units.

Plus, the Union made sure to destroy all the Confederate records they could get their hands on. I’ve got another link I’ll post for dump truck tomorrow. It’s a black descendent of a Confederate soldier and he has a pic of his soldier ancestor. Didn’t have much time for forum today.

These are the most racist and statist people I’ve ever seen!


1,175 posted on 04/27/2010 9:30:51 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: Idabilly

LMAO!!!!! Good one!


1,176 posted on 04/27/2010 11:19:56 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: Non-Sequitur
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1,177 posted on 04/27/2010 11:28:40 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Nah, I’ll leave that one for you to do. I’ll be long gone spending my days fishing, reading, diving and just living. Have fun in your basement when the SHTF here.


1,178 posted on 04/27/2010 11:31:09 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: southernsunshine
These are the most racist and statist people I’ve ever seen!

If you read the "Godfather" by mario Puzo, you can understand the mentality of these neo-yanks.

1,180 posted on 04/28/2010 3:31:08 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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